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CleverPun
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10:32:34 PM Apr 29th 2010
I was thinking we could add a note about how the reverse applies too: just because something is well-known or popular; "notable" by other standards, doesn't mean it has a page already, and rather than complaining or being SHOCKED about it not being there, then add it oneself or put it on the List Of Shows That Need Summary.

To be fair, I haven't really seen anything like that, so I may be trying to address a problem that doesn't exist, but that's why we have discussion pages after all!
TheLordofHats
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12:50:55 PM Oct 11th 2010
Could we add a bit of a corollary? I've seen some things that, "No Such Thing As Notability" aside, really don't need to be on the page. I remember one reference to an online RP that someone was in once. TINSTAN aside, having that on the page doesn't really help anyone to understand the trope better.
Worldmaker
05:38:02 AM Oct 12th 2010
Neither does six dozen references to Anime works that only five people outside of Japan have ever seen, yet we don't stop those examples.
Callid
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10:12:23 AM Nov 3rd 2010
How far is this valid? Of course, it applies to tropes and examples, that's for sure. Does it also apply to works, so may you, for example, create a page about a book that, let's say, has only been published in German and had a print run of 5000 copies? Or, to go even further, the author of said book? May he have his own page? And then there are, of course, celebrities, like Barack Obama - how much of a celebrity do one have to be? And what about the Useful Notes section? Does anything that may be useful - for example, a long explanation of the ruling system of Charlemagne - deserve its own page? Basically, where are the borders (if there are any)?
FastEddie
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10:20:22 AM Nov 3rd 2010
This applies to all works. All works are admitted.

If you want to write up a page on a creator of whatever fame, it is admissible, as long as it list tropes related to the creator. Not an encyclopedia article, a description and a list of tropes.
TripleElation
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07:35:52 AM Jun 10th 2011
edited by TripleElation
For extra effect, imagine Uncle Vernon shouting this at Harry Potter- who soon discovers that his parents died not in a car accident, but a heated VfD debate, then goes on to become one of the greatest Wikipedia editors in the history of the world.
DamianYerrick
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04:20:39 PM Dec 15th 2011
No Real Life Examples Please states that "a work portraying real life is still a work", and examples of how a work portrays a real-life subject are fine. So I guess these are the exceptions to there being no such thing as notability: where Wikipedia requires that a subject be mentioned in reliable sources, no-real-life tropes require that a subject be mentioned in works. Where did I err?
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