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05:42:23 PM Dec 8th 2014
I get the trope, but I don't get the title. Who came up with the name "Woobie", and why?
06:24:43 AM Feb 6th 2013
edited by PPPSSC
"If the character is The Chew Toy, Butt Monkey, or is a Jerkass he is not The Woobie."

The Chew Toy, I get. A Jerkass with woobie tendencies is a Jerkass Woobie. How did Butt Monkey manage to get listed here? The Butt Monkey trope itself is mood neutral and:

Aspects of Butt Monkey: suffers disproportionately

Aspects of The Woobie: suffers disproportionately, is negatively affected, and is seen as sympathetic

Not to mention the description contradicts itself and later says that a Butt Monkey can be a woobie if tortured too mercilessly.
04:20:06 PM Jul 18th 2013
A character can't really be both at once. A Butt Monkey can become The Woobie if tortured too mercilessly and not Played for Laughs, while The Woobie can become a Butt Monkey if their abuse becomes comedic rather than dramatic. But they can't be both at once; in a sense, they're the same trope, but Butt Monkey is Played for Laughs and The Woobie is Played for Drama.
04:33:43 PM Aug 5th 2013
See, that's the thing. A Butt Monkey doesn't have to be Played for Laughs; it often is, but it can also be played more seriously or even to varying degrees of humor depending on the type of torture. It's a lot broader of a trope than this one or its true humorous opposite The Chew Toy.
03:58:05 PM Jan 16th 2013
This page is long enough to justify an opening quote to catch interest. There's plenty of options in the quotes page - I'm personally partial to the LalÚna quote.

What do you guys think?
06:54:43 AM Jul 1st 2012
Can we please add the Animated Films and Live Action Films examples in their separate pages? There seems to be way too many in that film page section already. It's also confusing as to which one is the animated films and live action films.
09:28:40 AM Jan 3rd 2012
Perhaps Judy Prava from Phoenix Wright Devil's Attorney counts as a woobie, given her revealed backstory. Not sure where she would fit in though.
06:41:02 AM Sep 8th 2011
What's the trope namer for this, or is there one?
03:26:54 PM May 8th 2014
I was thinking the same thing honestly. ^^; What's a woobie?
03:47:49 AM Feb 9th 2011
edited by Surenity
Poor Woobie page, being made into a YMMV. I feel so sorry for it. =(
07:52:52 PM Nov 6th 2010
I think Squidward was only The Woobie in 2 episodes: "Band Geeks" and "Can You Spare A Dime?". However, in the latter, he became a Jerkass Woobie by making SpongeBob his slave.
06:05:11 PM Apr 13th 2011
I would say Squidward is a Jerkass Woobie due to his role as the Only Sane Man.
12:07:42 PM Sep 6th 2010
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What is the difference between The Woobie and Moe? Is it the cause of audience sympathy, the treatment of the character within the story, or are they the same?
07:53:38 PM Nov 6th 2010
Moe is just cute. Woobies are sympathy magnets. However, a lot of examples for the latter are cute.
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