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bigfatcarp93
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03:41:36 AM Aug 28th 2014
In some cases, the diff between this and Big Bad seem rather arbitrary... for example, could someone explain to me how Palpatine and Vader are Big Bad and Dragon, but Saren and Sovereign are MBTM and Big Bad? The two sets of characters are in THE EXACT SAME SITUATION.
SeptimusHeap
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03:57:55 AM Aug 28th 2014
I know nothing about the context so you'd have to explain it to me.

That said, The Man Behind the Man is the entity who from the background steers the behaviour of the villains. The Dragon is usually more independent.
WillKeaton
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05:33:12 PM Sep 29th 2011
Does a Man Behind the Man have to have orchestraited or otherwise manipulated his predecesor? Because if this is the case several of these examples don't fit.
corhen
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02:25:00 PM Aug 17th 2010
would The Wizard of Oz be this? as it turns out that the wizard is actually just a man.
MasterGhandalf
04:43:25 PM Dec 20th 2010
That's The Man Behind the Curtain. The Wizard was never the hidden power behind anyone else, he just pretended to have abilities he actually didn't.
TSBasilisk
11:21:37 PM Jul 21st 2011
Madara looming behind Yagura seemed fitting to me.
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