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03:22:54 AM Feb 4th 2012
Someone added the trope "Death Is Cheap". I'm not entirely sure it fits here. What was it referring to? Bruenor faking being on his death bed in Crystal Shard? Drizzt being presumed dead after being burried in Streams of Silver? Bruenor being presumed dead after riding on a burning dragon? If I understood the "Death is Cheap" trope correctly, that refers only to cases where a person is supernaturally brought back from having been dead for real, not just presumed dead and then ends up not being so. Anyone agree?
11:56:07 AM Feb 4th 2012
Ah, you're right. What I meant is that the reader can't help but become desensitized to faked deaths, rooftop falls, etc.
08:19:02 AM Feb 7th 2012
YMMV though. I for one still got scared afterwards every time a character was in danger. Ok, maybe not Entreri.
05:00:07 PM Sep 23rd 2010
I'm curious about a recent edit and was hoping somebody could help me understand it. Under Girls Need Role Models, it says "Catti-brie actually becomes less of the wise, mature badass she's played up to be the more time in the limelight she gets, becoming more and more akin to a Straw Feminist than the cool, strong woman she starts off as. As the series progresses despite the fact that the other characters and Salvatore himself maintain that she's the definition of a strong, Action Girl, which suggest Salvatore thinks this is what feminism is."

It's been a little while since the last time I read the series, but I don't recall Catti-Brie acting like a Straw Feminist in it, at least not like a Straw Feminist as I understand it. Straw feminists I've read about (or in some cases, had the misfortune to actually read stories about, since said stories are usually poor quality) are portrayed as man-haters, angry all the time, and being very vocal about injustices which the author believes either don't exist or are being blown out of proportion by the straw feminist. That's not the way Catti-Brie acted.

While she did give Wulfgar some good advice in the first book—although I forget exactly what it was—she was more of a supporting character than one of the main characters. We had Wulfgar, Drizzt, Bruenor, and even Regis being really active and in the thick of things, whereas Catti-Brie spent most of the time on the sidelines.

One could certainly argue that she doesn't look terribly strong in the second book, since much of the time she's too terrified of Entreri to do anything but comply with him, making her kind of a Distressed Damsel. (Maybe I should add that trope later.) However, she's not completely helpless, since she does manage to sow the seeds of conflict between Entreri and Jierdan (or perhaps I should say stoke the fires of a conflict that was already there) and manages to escape on her own. And she does make a significant contribution in the fights near the end of the book, first against Entreri, Sydney, and Bok, and later against Shimmergloom.

By the time of The Halfling's Gem, in my view she was in fact pretty badass. She was also no less wise, since she had that insightful talk with Drizzt about why he wore that magical mask and his true motivations for pursuing Entreri.

And she somewhat makes up for her paralyzing fear of Entreri in "Starless Night", when she proves to him that he's no longer got any hold over her.

It's possible I'm missing something, though, and if I am I would be interested to read what it is.
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