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204.112.19.104
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05:06:09 PM Jun 13th 2010
Wait a minute - dinosaurs and humans "never" co-existed? What about the compythysaurus spotted in Italy in the 14th century? What about the pteranodons who the Egyptians had to drive away from their spice crops? What about the triceratops killed by knights in medieval France? What about the pleiosaur spotted by a hundred witnesses aboard a naval vessel off the coast of Japan during World War II??? Even Charles Darwin would agree that humans existed by those times.
MajinGojira
07:53:22 PM Jun 13th 2010
Lies and misinformation. None of the sources are reputable nor do the claims constitute evidence.

It's creationist BS. In other words, THIS TROPE.
Kendai
10:42:21 PM Aug 29th 2010
That does nothing to refute the claim. Your counter argument is essentially fingers-in-ears.

Basically the old fall back of "It's only evidence if it agrees with what I believe."

Two websites, Godsaidmansaid.com and answersingenesis.org, offer scientific explanations and cite sources of evidence. Though most will treat their creationist position as grounds for dismissal rather than try to find a valid reason.
MajinGojira
05:46:12 PM Feb 14th 2011
edited by Spinosegnosaurus77
Man, the things I miss...

Okay. "Compythysaurus" isn't even a proper dinosaur name. It probably refers to Compsognathus. The lizard like animal described does not match what we know about such theropods anyway. Science Marches On plays hell on Creationist Dogma and lies.

Pteranodon in Egypt? Triceratops in France? Plesiosaurs in the Pacific? Misplaced Wildlife to the extreme. Further, Pteranodon was a sea going fish eater, it'd have little to no interest in spices. Triceratops are herd animals, so a knight finding one alone (let alone killing it dragon-style) is ridiculous beyond words. Plesiosaur "sightings" play up their swan like necks, something their musculuature could not support nor could their vertebra allow them to move that fluidly.

Appeals to authority are just that and thus easily ignored as non-evidence.

Kendai, projection is an ugly thing.

Creationism has never published anything of value. No scientific journals, no discoveries, not break throughs, no peer review. Any idiot can make a website. It's failed in the scientific literature, it's failed in courts mutliple times due to a blatant re-naming campaign ("Creationism" replaced with "Intelligent Design" in Of Pandas and People, the Creationist and Intelligent Design textbook).

I can clearly call creationists lying because they've been convicted of it. Multiple times.

You want Creatsionism to be taken seriously as a science? Pointed to something published in a peer reviewed journal, or some medidical or scientific break through that uses creation theory to make human lives better in an objective physical way?

Furbearingbrick gave some good links. I'd throw in Creationtheory.org, which breaks down all the common arguments and has example debates...er...dismantelings of creation theory in action.
FloydPinkerton
02:03:50 PM Aug 11th 2011
If some dinosaurs somehow persisted into modern times, it still wouldn't confirm Creationism (any more than living cœlacanths confirm Creationism). All that would mean is that it's hard to judge the date of extinction due to the haphazard process of fossilization, which we already know.
65.12.140.114
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09:40:45 PM Jul 19th 2010
The correct spelling should be paleontologist, not palaeontologist. I don't know the process to fix the page link, so I'll leave that to someone better acquainted with tvtropes.
GracieLizzie
01:52:11 PM Oct 20th 2010
Palaeontology is the British spelling, I'm British and if I am not mistaken I was the person who suggested the name for this trope back when it was a YKTTW. At least I think I was, it was either me or another Brit. Anyway someone made the suggestion with the British spelling and it just stuck.
furbearingbrick
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02:58:46 PM Feb 14th 2011
Cut this bit: "(Also, lava is really more of a Cretaceous thing.)" ....WHAT?!
MajinGojira
05:47:00 PM Feb 14th 2011
There was a lot of volcanic activity towards the end of the cretaceous, especially in India, IIRC.
azraelfinalstar
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06:07:07 PM Aug 30th 2011
Would a work be this trope if it was from a Creationist point of view? it wouldn't be a lack of research.
albertonykus
09:24:28 PM Aug 30th 2011
Frankly, creationism in general is in itself a Did Not Do The Research.
azraelfinalstar
12:25:48 PM Aug 31st 2011
Not really, its simply not accepting what the scientists tell them. A tad Naive, i'll grant, but frankly, if you throw God into the equation, nothing is for certain.
albertonykus
06:58:12 PM Aug 31st 2011
I'm more referring to their supposed arguments against evolution, all of which tend to be horribly misinformed, outdated, or simply wrong.
ading
05:36:37 AM Oct 21st 2011
Most of them, I would say. Some of them aren't paleontology-related.
Spinosegnosaurus77
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07:44:28 AM Oct 29th 2011
"Please don't list this on a work's page as a trope. "

And why not?
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