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Main Scrappy Mechanic Discussion
Why the heck is Minecraft listed under Party/Casual Game?
About the D 20 Modern Wealth system: if the player wants to be a sniper and to buy a sniper rifle, how can he roll a 2 on his die? Since taking 10 and taking 20 rules applies to wealth check (unless you are reduced to 0 wealth bonus)... If you really want that sniper rifle, you can take 20, can't you?
Also, the Windfall Feat Plexus is clearly a Loophole Abuse that makes no sense in-game. So any sane GM would disallow it. Even the game developers were pretty clear on that point in their Bullet Points. http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20modern/bp/20050125a
How about the "justice system" or whatever in Elder Scrolls: Oblivion. The "psychic guards" and the way they could just send ESP to the next town over to share your nefarious deeds with them.
Goes entirely without notice for people playing a good character, but for an evil character really turns the game into a "be evil in the way we tell you to be evil" affair.
Pulled this because the trope is about one bad rule. The example lists most aspects of gameplay.
- H-Game Youju Senki AD 2048 has nothing but this in the gameplay term. Your character can't boost stats on level up and have fixed euipments, you can't use an item or spell, monster are everywhere, hit percentages are miscalculated, you can't shoot through walls or your units, characters keep informing an unskipable message of their actions, and later missions are strictly time limited. The whole game is hard not becuase of the challenge, but becuase of its Scrappy Mechanic.
No mention of Black City or White Forest and the fact that you have to beat Black/White within 10 days or the city/forest will empty out and the only way to revive them is via Enternalink? Which can only be done locally?
I think we may have a Troper Tales leak in the Tabletop Games section, or at least some research failure...
"Roll-and-move can get ambiguous if your dice have just knocked your piece off the board." What's ambiguous about picking up your piece & putting it back on the board?
"[Pop-o-Matic] has its own problems; you can get a numb palm with a long game of one of these." How do you get a numb palm softly pressing a bubble once every 2 minutes?
"Others, like Candy Land and Sorry!, eschew dice for a deck of specially-printed cards. Still random, but for some reason, card randomness is less hated than dice randomness." The only randomness in Candy Land is the opening shuffle; after that point, the game is predestined.
Hey, I think warriors orochi also needs some stuff.
If ONLY ONE of your characters die, you lose.
Full metal alchemist for the DS, a dungeon fighter-esque beat'em up, has also two mechanics, one when you need to make a transmutation circle, and the stealth-based mission, which kinda sucked.
Onimusha 3: the PC port makes the game almost unwinnable because, when you are on the room where jacques has to make a puzzle to unlock the door, with poisonous gas that kills you if you don't clear it in time, henri shouting every moment... and the fact that sometimes it doesn't recognize the buttons you just press, forcing you to do the same puzzle from the beginning.
People didnt like the combat in Mirror's Edge? It's the best part! Swat team is coming from the elevator, yaaay! *Slide*Nutpunch*Knee in face*Hide*Regen*Repeat* I made a point of killing every cop/swat/whatever i could find. For me, the scrappy mechanic would be throwing away the pistol instead of reloading it. Either let me reload the weapons or make all enemies stand in accessible places. It's supposed to be a jumpy runny free urban game and i cant reach the cop standing 2 metres above me? Seriously?
The Pokemon section is filled with really minor complaints, things that don't deserve their own entries. It needs a clean up. For example:
- Letting Zubat/Golbat encounters take place anywhere in a cave.
Aw c'mon, I start wanting to edit things on the site and become an ative troper, and THIS happens! Why is this happening? It sucks!
I think the Star Wars D20 System comment is Complaining About Shows You Dont Like. I find the D20 system very easy to understand (you roll a D20 + modifiers, and try to get your target number), and I think the reason Wot C didn't use the old system was because it was developed and licensed for West End Games, while Wot C had its own system it wanted to use.
That being said, before Saga Edition, I do agree Wot C's Star Wars Roleplaying game systems were piles of unmitigated crap.
According to its page, Red Steel has one, anyone care to jog my memory as to what that was?