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08:04:08 PM Aug 29th 2011
Can someone please clarify for me what is the difference between "Knight in Shining Armor" and "Saint Chevalier?" I'm failing to see a difference.
12:48:58 PM Sep 15th 2011
edited by atheywa
No difference at all? The Saint Chevalier is noble and righteous while the Knight in Shining Armor has no code of chivalry. The saintly knight is serving the king and people while the one in shining armor is on a quest for personal adventure. The saintly White Knight believes in Courtly Love while the shiny one is determined to Marry for Love. Does that help?
11:32:39 AM Oct 6th 2011
edited by LordGro
I actually don't see the difference. The Knight in Shining Armor is a subtrope of Ideal Hero, so it's implied he is reasonably noble and righteous. There's no reason to assume he "has no code of chivalry", and the description does not specify whether he is serving the king or only quests "for adventure" or some personal goal. Knight in Shining Armor also does not say whether the Knight wants to Marry for Love or not.

If anything, then the Saint Chevalier is a subtrope to Knight in Shining Armor. But maybe that should become clearer from the trope descriptions. That the Saint Chevalier is a "chivalrous warrior" is no distinction, because the Knight in Shining Armor is exactly that too.
04:06:30 PM Oct 8th 2011
I don't know. Maybe Saint Chevalier and Ideal Hero are the same thing. All I know is when people talk about a knight they are refering to one of two kinds. One is a woman's dream man who will fight in her honor to win his lady's affection and sweep her off her feet, the Knight in Shining Armor if you will. The other is courteous, noble, and lives by a code of chivalry, the White Knight if you will. The knight in shining armor page used to be mixing them together. Most of the time that doesn't work because a knight will have a clear priority of loyalty to his lady or his lord.
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