(to quote from the IJBM page) "The social structure is pretty much purely American and the attitudes of the classmates go against most Japanese standards." I'm not doubting this, but can you give more detail as to how it is true?
Willbyr
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05:24:00 PM Feb 10th 2011 edited by Willbyr
In regards to the last two tropes added - has this really gotten enough bad press to deserve them?
CrypticMirror
05:28:28 PM Feb 10th 2011
wow someone sounds bitter. hype backlash, I think not. Fair For Its Day, well it is a product of its time, the magical girl formula was in its heyday and no one had really de-constructed it and its fandom, which has been pretty routine for a while now.
Millennium
05:17:15 AM Feb 24th 2011
The thing is, HypeBacklash is also fair, if you're expecting to read a modern fanfiction (this isn't fanfiction, but was clearly written with the same audience in mind). It was written in a different time, for a different generation of readers.
This is a product of its time, not just in terms of being dark and of deconstructing the magical girl formula, but also in the way that seems to generate most of the contemporary complaints: its storytelling conventions. The trend of exhaustively researching Japanese culture for authenticity in anime fanfiction is actually fairly recent, at least in English-language fanfiction, and this fic predates that trend by several years. As such, it does some things that grate heavily on the sensibilities of some modern readers, mostly coming out in accusations of DidNotDoTheResearch. By modern standards, those accusations are true. By the standards of this work's time, though, it did quite well: better than most, even. If that's not kept in mind, it risks marring the reader's enjoyment.
In other words, Fair For Its Day.
Valentine
01:37:59 PM Mar 23rd 2011 edited by Valentine
Fair For Its Day is Values Dissonance caused by a change in values with the passage of time though. Not researching Japanese culture or whether the story is dark aren't really Values Dissonance, so it's not this trope, particularly since Fair For Its Day is when it turns out that most stories written at the time had the problem you've noticed But More So. Saying this is basically saying that everything written at the time this was written was less dark/less researched than Sailor Nothing, which isn't the description given at all.
I think the Hype Backlash entry is fair, but I cut back the description because it's just written really badly. If someone could improve it, that would be great.