Main Rei Ayanami Expy Discussion

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NubianSatyress
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09:23:07 AM Oct 26th 2017
This was removed with no explanation:

Having watched a TON of anime in the past few months, I added this because it's just flat out true. I don't see any reason this should remain in the description.
Larkmarn
11:34:39 AM Oct 26th 2017
Examples? Lovable Sex Maniac seems borderline mutually exclusive to this trope since it implies a sense of outgoingness that contradicts it.
nendroid
11:44:04 AM Oct 26th 2017
I dont think this is prevalent enough to be a trait of this. Plus Loveable Sex Maniac type characters are generally extroverted (Rei expies generally are introverted). Maybe there's some Rei expies that are covert perverts but that's more of the exception than the norm.
NubianSatyress
12:54:45 PM Oct 26th 2017
edited by NubianSatyress
No, it's VERY prevalent.

And that's JUST off the top of my head.

The reason it's not mutually exclusive to the trope is that their Emotionless Girl characteristics are used for deadpan humor when offset against their sexually aggressive nature.

For example, there's a scene with Origami in Date A Live where Shido visits her in the hospital, and her very clear and deadpan attempts to seduce him are played for humor.
nendroid
05:54:52 PM Oct 26th 2017
edited by nendroid
Those are all fanservice/harem shows. Would the same be applicable if it wasn't a fanservice/harem show (i.e. Gargantia, Guilty Crown)
NubianSatyress
06:24:36 PM Oct 26th 2017
edited by NubianSatyress
Um, maybe not? But we're just listing criteria, which can appear in a variety of stories. Not hard rules that must be followed at all times.

For example, not all Rei expies are Love Interests or Artificial Humans; the latter of which is generally limited to very specific genres.
nendroid
11:33:21 PM Oct 26th 2017
edited by nendroid
Well, considering that Rei Ayanami exhibited each and every of those criteria (save for the now-removed Loveable Sex Maniac part) and she's the progenitor of this character archetype, I would say that the criteria be best limited to whatever she exhibited.

With all that said, though, how many characteristics are required for a person to qualify as this as there are 14.
NubianSatyress
06:58:04 AM Oct 27th 2017
edited by NubianSatyress
Those are, in my opinion, bad ideas.

Tropes are not static, unchanging things. So, right off, I have to say that putting in the description "the Trope Namer exhibit each of these traits" both dates and limits the trope. Especially since the Loveable Sex Maniac variants demonstrate WHY people like the archetype in the first place; Rei's creator intended for the character to off-putting, creepy and disturbing...but fans found her monotone unintentionally sexy. So now, we have expies which embrace that dynamic, even if it wasn't at all what Rei was supposed to represent.

Also, putting a number on a "litmus test" style trope is a bad idea. There's no hard number of tropes that makes a character qualify.
steelserie
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04:30:16 PM Feb 19th 2017
edited by steelserie
Removed a portion of the text which claimed that Anno had intended such and such for the character, although there is no such citation or quote to be found about the intention.

Hoping discussion of that can go here, if someone is missing something that should be there.

MithrandirOlorin
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11:22:58 PM Aug 9th 2015
I'm gonna suggest something that it shocks me hasn't been thought of before. But I think Sephiroth of Final Fantasy VII might have based on Rei Ayanami.

He may be male and certainly not emotionless. But he is also the product of a cloning experiment that involving merging Human DNA with an Eldrich Abomination that the Usefull Notes/Gnostisim page labels a Sofia figure. Was raised to be a solider and has an unnatural hair color.
SeptimusHeap
02:07:19 AM Aug 10th 2015
Not nearly close enough, I must say.
Mullon
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07:17:39 PM Apr 19th 2013
That we didn't call this trope "Rei Clone" is a waste I say.
sparkykandy
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03:26:50 PM Aug 24th 2012
So, what happens when an character predates the trope namer? To be more specific, I'm talking about Angel from One Must Fall 2097. One Must Fall came out in 1994. Evangelion first aired in 1995. I'm sorely tempted to just make a note that points out this fact.
ElectricBoogaloo
10:11:43 PM Sep 6th 2012
Elyandarin
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02:26:35 PM May 26th 2012
Hmm, maybe not perfect matches, but how about Anju Maaka from Karin, or Kamiyama Meme from Kamisama Kazou?
killian
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03:43:55 PM Apr 26th 2012
What about Kanna from Inuyasha?

She may not be a teenager (physically something like ten or eleven, I believe), but she does have the pale skin and petite frame.

Again, her hair is not short, but it is white and her eyes are black.

Her odd behavior definitely comes from not being a human, but being made to be void.

It might just be me interpreting it, but she did seem to wish to be more 'normal' as time passed. She cared for Kagura and at the end Kagome learned she didn't want to die and she did have feelings, hinting at this.

Also, later, she controls a GIANT MIRROR MONSTER that reminded me personally of a mecha.
MasterChi
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07:43:31 PM Nov 4th 2011
edited by MasterChi
What about making this trope's name Rei Ayanami Clone? I know we did the same to a bunch of other characters, but this one is special... considering her background.
GyraSolune
06:08:11 AM Nov 8th 2011
Rei Clone is already a redirect. But it probably would be a better name. We already have Char Clone and Shana Clone, and this is the trope that would be especially and awesomely fitting, and it would work well with the other two.
CyberXIII
02:46:35 PM Mar 6th 2012
I agree, but we should probably make it Rei Ayanami Clone so we don't get confused with other Rei's that exist (the one from Sailor Moon, for instance.)
Antheia
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03:26:49 PM Aug 17th 2011
edited by Antheia
Took this out:

  • Near from Death Note is an interesting case: he's a male, and his stoic exterior is so thick that it masks this trope—however, he is a kuudere—controlling all of his emotional responses so one can see them without perceiving them as emotional, he appears otherworldly, and thus this applies

Near has white hair, controls his emotions and is a bit strange, but a kuudere? Are we ever shown signs of a hidden, "cute" inner person? He plays with toys, but not in secret, and he even uses them to help him think - that is, for intellectual purposes. Most importantly, though, he doesn't have a Become a Real Boy objective at all.
Cosman246
09:50:58 PM Sep 15th 2011
I would argue that he's a subversion (but it's pushing it even then), given that parts of his inner person are revealed: his disapproval at the dissolution of the SPK, his glee at meeting Light, and Light's Motive Rant about his ego. However, it is not shown as 'cute', thus subverting it
Tekrelious
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05:19:00 PM Jul 28th 2011
Why are Primula from Shuffle and Vanilla from Galaxy Angel not included? Is it the long hair? Otherwise I can't imagine why ....
YamiiDenryuu
09:02:26 AM Jul 30th 2011
Probably no one thought to add them yet. Feel free to do so yourself.
NoirGrimoir
02:39:32 PM Jul 30th 2011
This isn't a definitive list, we are definitely missing some, so go ahead and add them.
Tekrelious
12:51:44 AM Aug 6th 2011
Ahh indeed. I'm sometimes hesitant because I don't know what qualifications people assume to be part of a trope. In this case Vanilla and Primula both have excessively long hair and identifying them as members of the Rei brigade may not be inherently obvious unless the characters are well known.
ElleWednesday
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06:21:09 PM Jul 13th 2011
Is the redirect "Teh Rei" supposed to be "The Rei"?
YamiiDenryuu
10:17:07 AM Jul 14th 2011
Nope. The misspelling of "Teh" is some sort of meme, I believe.
fernanj003
10:51:35 AM Oct 14th 2011
It came from 4chan as a response to whenever someone posted H images of her. Example: Anon1 posts H image of Rei Anon2 respondes: "ZOMG!!!11111!!! TEH REI!"
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