A: Not the place to request edits on locked pages. Go to the thread in the FAQ board.
B: ... not an improvement. If you're not being facetious, but I assume you're trying to be funny or... something.
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So... this overly critical, highly biased line was noticed in 2013, and here it is 2023 and nobody's fixed it yet? Huh.
I haven't the spoons to do anything about it either, but I look very askance at the underlying claim that "most good fics/stories don't even tackle rape." I could point at many facets of this claim, but I'll restrict myself to this:
Fanfic is a female-skewed medium, where we tackle issues and viewpoints that the mainstream media ignores, stereotypes, or skews male. Female voices come from within a culture in which we are commonly aware of and subject to sexual harassment, assault, and worse; the Me Too movement pulled the curtain off how pervasive this is, how many women are affected across all walks of life. Which, not surprisingly, includes a lot of writers (independent of skill).
And fic writers use fanfic to recontextualize and deal with our experiences and our fears; whole essays
have been written on the use of fanfiction to help survivors deal with their trauma (either as a writer or as a reader or both). Yeah, many of these are going to be poorly written, because fanfiction as a whole is (commonly) poorly written* — but no, good fics don't routinely shy from difficult or controversial topics, quite the opposite. You think good writers who've been victimized aren't going to use their writing to fight back in a way they couldn't any other way?
What even the hell, man.
- Clarification: Fanfiction doesn't go through the editorial process that published work does, and it doesn't have the gatekeeping that published work has. It's open to everyone at every level of skill, without barriers, hence why I say that a lot of it is poorly written. That's not a slam against those fics — writers need to start somewhere, and fic is a great place to explore the craft and get feedback. I didn't mean to imply that fanfic doesn't contain a lot of incredibly good writing, because it does.
P.S. Larkmarn, you missed the point of the original comment there, which was to call attention to how ridiculously biased the line is. Saying that good fics avoid dealing with rape is like saying that good films avoid dealing with violence, and FOFD made that point adeptly.
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Weren't all rape tropes deleted from here?
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No, a number of rape tropes still exist.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Didn't this used to have a list of examples? And since it doesn't, is there some other location where it's listed? I know and appreciate how sensitive a subject rape is, but there're plenty of people who, for any reason, might want to know what books/movies/etc. provide good examples of this. At the very least there should be some page that lists out cases portrayed with rape, regardless of its presentation.
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No, we are not going to have a list of rapes. For one thing, rape per se is not a trope.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Yo, change this:
"It's arguable that less than 1% of Fan Fic actually uses Rape as Drama effectively, as most of the 10% of "good fics" that Sturgeon's Law claims there to be avoid using rape entirely."
"It's arguable that only 1 out of every 100 films actually had good fight choreography, as most of the 10% of "good films that I decide are good" that are referenced by Sturgeon's Law avoid focusing action, because any good film uses sparse amounts of action."
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