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vexle
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08:54:44 PM Jun 16th 2010
edited by vexle
Does anybody else feel that this page could use some editing? Obviously, this is T Vtropes, not the Encyclopedia Britannica, and not Wikipedia. It's informal, and geared more towards fun than the ultimate pursuit of knowledge. Given that, T Vtropes isn't 4chan, either. I am of the opinion that the Questionable Content page is below even the standards of quality, insofar as any exist, that is appropriate for a T Vtropes page.

Take, for instance, the Misaimed Fandom entry: Misaimed Fandom: Apparently TV Tropes writers. Based on Jeph's twitter (Sep 4th, 2009) and news posts on the comic main page, he was so upset from Hanners/Marigold Les Yay shippers that he addressed how stupid he thinks that is in this comic. Of course, he also stated that this page is like "every idiotic comment in his forums on one page". Some writers take this website better than others.

I try not to speak from personal opinion, but come on. If you were Jeph Jacques, how pissed would you be after reading this page? The writer of the above passage even goes so far as to backhandedly insult Jacques for being displeased with his fanbase. If your fans spent their time discussing the possibility of all your characters switching sexual orientation for no reason and pairing off for even less reason, would you feel any different? Somebody's in the wrong here, and it's not Jeph Jacques.

Here's another gem: AI Is A Crapshoot: Presumably at some point in the Back Story, Marten paid good money for Pintsize...

This is an example. Examples are supposed to be... examples. That means you have to explain why they represent the trope. Otherwise, you're simply taking up valuable space on the page with nonsense, like this line. The explanation for the example is that Marten paid money for a robot. AI Is A Crapshoot has nothing to do with money and very little to do with robots, and absolutely nothing to do with exchanging one for the other. It's meaningless text that does not relate to anything in the comic or on the page in which it appears. To end on a low note, the example terminates with an ellipsis. ellipsis is used to A) indicate a place where a word has been omitted or B), more commonly, to indicate a pause in speech (like in the second sentence of this paragraph.) There is, obviously, no reason to end the line in question in either way, so the proper punctuation is the single period.

Again: Depraved Bisexual: Pintsize, Possibly. He flirts with/harasses women throughout the comic, steals Faye's underwear, and compliments random women on their breasts, But he has had at least one relationship with another male. Since it was a male robot, it might not count, though. Possibly subverted in that he seemed to actually care about him.

Both poorly presented and not easily justified as being a valid example. Pintsize is not provably bisexual, and the example does not demonstrate that he is depraved.

and I'll end with my personal favorite, from the Fetish Fuel entry: Hanners as a rule is awesome. Everything about her makes me want to wrap her up in a (very clean) blanket and keep her safe... Though that may not be all I would like to do.

...really? I love this comic because of how wacky it is. It's totally unreasonable to expect the T Vtropes page to not reflect that, but this is too much.
Mercy
09:14:48 PM Jul 30th 2010
So...? Get editing?
SylviaSybil
topic
06:05:36 PM Jul 30th 2010
edited by Westrim
Question for another website.
Westrim
12:40:36 AM Jul 31st 2010
edited by Westrim
The discussion pages are to discuss the page, and the page only. Go to the QC forums.
SylviaSybil
07:01:21 PM Jul 31st 2010
I needed the information so I could add examples here on TV Tropes. Seemed relevant to me. But that's okay, I can do without.
TwinBird
05:29:37 PM Nov 10th 2010
...bit rude to edit others' discussion entries, even off-topic ones, isn't it? Looking at the history, the question (looking for a searchable database oh lookee) even looks to be pretty clearly directed at the improvement of the page, even if it's not quite explicit.
SylviaSybil
09:09:35 PM Nov 12th 2010
Twin Bird, you rock. =)
Kurtulmak
01:15:09 PM Nov 25th 2010
Looking at Sylvia Sybil's original comment (via the history), I agree that it was an imminently reasonable question to put on the discussion page. Westrim, your comment was unhelpful, and editing her post to obscure the question was completely out of line.
TwinBird
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05:56:51 PM Nov 10th 2010
edited by TwinBird
Edit summary from westrim on removing the subentry about Marigold being a "Yuri Fan" for the second time:

we can't see the complete folder names and, as the filename implies, her expression is not a happy one at what she finds. and she just said she wasn't interested. and those extra illustrations aren't canon. and I don't explain things on the first edit; that would be a waste of time, given the low number of reverts

Okay, first off, that seems like horrible wiki practice in general, like a glove to the face for edit wars, even if there aren't so many reverts here. Just saying even one of those things the first time around wouldn't have taken long. But that's beside the point.

  • "Her expression is not a happy one at what she finds. And she just said she wasn't interested."

These both are about her, personally, entangled with women. There's a world of difference. I'm not saying it's sexual; in fact, it certainly isn't, but it's there.

  • "We can't see the complete folder names... and those extra illustrations aren't canon."

It's right under the yaoi folder, 3-4 letters long, and begins "YU-." I'm not sure how that could be other than to be read "yuri." And of course it's non-canon (if QC fanfic exists in canon, they've got a worse stalker than Hannelore to deal with), but why is it there in the first place?

It's small enough that it's not really worth fighting over, but your reasons for removing it are ridiculous.
Jabroniville
11:58:23 AM Nov 26th 2010
Westrim also hacked off the Acceptable Targets and Unfortunate Implications examples, without explanation (possibly too negative to the comic itself? Perhaps- THEN EDIT THEM TO BE BETTER). In addition to the above, AND the in-discussion stuff he edited and hacked-out, I have to say this guy is darn close to a Wiki Vandal, and we should maybe consider getting an editor/admin involved. He just has no sense of politeness or netiquette at all.
Freezer
topic
09:06:37 PM Nov 16th 2010
edited by Freezer
Removed The Unfair Sex for now. I assume the original editor was referring to Dora completely overreacting to Marten calling her on not respecting his privacy. Given the immediate smackdown Dora received over her last freakout, I'd wait until this plays out, to see if this is played straight (highly doubtful) or subverted.
Jcatgrl
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01:48:56 PM Dec 16th 2010
Now, I think that this: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1718 falls under some sort of trope, but I'm not sure. Can anyone else help me find it? Something about bonding through violence?
nomuru2d
02:30:50 PM Dec 16th 2010
hobbitguy1420
07:09:18 PM Dec 16th 2010
Jabroniville
11:51:27 PM Jan 12th 2011
edited by Jabroniville
Defeat Equals Friendship sounds good. You Are a Worthy Foe, too.
Jabroniville
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04:35:40 AM Jan 13th 2011
Why were the examples of Art Evolution deleted? They're not against the Webcomic at all, and they reflect one of the most notable aspects of Jeph's work. A poster named "Hiko" deleted them. I placed them back on (with some editing), and I would like some discussion before someone else hacks all of them off, please.
Jumpingzombie
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11:10:34 AM Mar 2nd 2011
Is it just me or should the Les Yay example be put into Les Yay Shipping? The example even admits that it's not really subtexty, the fans just like putting the lesbian ships, especially if it pisses the creator off.
bishiboosh
topic
01:28:22 AM May 25th 2011
Seems like he doesn't hate us so much :

(didn't know where to put that, so I'll just let it here)
Landis
topic
07:52:33 AM May 29th 2011
I found a small arc in a bar where a Hanners-precursor is talking with Marten about Faye (this is right after the strip 500 arc). Which trope would best fit her appearance? It's not Early Bird Cameo, because Hanners wasn't mentioned at all before that, and wouldn't . It's definitely subject to Early Installment Weirdness, because she's wearing several piercings and smoking. First appearance is #515, she mentions her OCD on #520.
Haven
01:22:54 PM May 29th 2011
edited by Haven
Early Installment Weirdness doesn't quite apply, since it's not for the series as a whole. I think the relevant trope is Characterization Marches On.
superdude99
07:28:54 AM Jun 2nd 2011
That is Hanners, not a Hanners-precursor. Did you continue to read it, because she gives her name in a couple strips.
superdude99
topic
07:27:42 AM Jun 2nd 2011
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=375 Is this guy possibly an early incarnation of Angus? He doesn't look totally like him but the art changed so much between this and his official introduction it's possible Jeph intended them to be the same character. Early Bird Cameo maybe?
Jonn
topic
06:14:50 PM Aug 16th 2011
Aren't there rules about spoilers above the tropes? Specifically; "Don't."?
mifdsam
topic
09:55:34 PM Sep 1st 2011
edited by mifdsam
Am I the only one who doesn't find it weird that Momo's new Chassis seems to have "human" elbows? I mean, look: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2004

Other humanoid anthro PC chassis have all had doll-like joints on their elbows: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1999
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