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Is there any way to bring up the U.S. GOP inaugural year approval poll
without instigating Flame Bait?
Does Sinfest invoke Poe's Law? Most people agree that Tats must believe in the message he's preaching, but sometimes it just goes so over-the-top that it makes one wonder if he's not just pulling some extremely elaborate prank. I'm sure I can dig up links to reviews stating this if I looked for them.
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Regarding this entry:
"The death of singer Cass Elliot from the Mamas and the Papas also factors into this. After collapsing from a heart attack, investigators noted that a sandwich was found in her room and, despite a post-mortem showing otherwise, parodies regarding her weight and the poor wording of the attending physician mean it's still widely believed that she choked to death on a sandwich simply because it's considered more humorous. In addition, it's usually noted to be a ham sandwich Mama Cass allegedly choked to death on. Geddit, "ham" = "fat pig". A cruel joke related to her weight. Hurhurhur."
This doesn't seem like an appropriate trope entry - blaming the death on a sandwich isn't an extreme parody of anything, but rather a cruel rumor. Rumors getting mistaken for reality doesn't belong on this page.
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Seems about right. I zapped the example.
Let's just say and leave it at that.
I think this should be a sub trope of Reality Is Unrealistic
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Maybe. It seems to me so, certainly.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
The current trope image is a little confusing. Consider changing the image to this
◊, which is a lot clearer and funnier.
Clearer maybe, but it's also an Image Macro, which isn't allowed as an image.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
From what I've heard, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles could be an example of Poe's Law; it (allegedly) started as a parody of the superhero comic genre and its inherent silliness, but then went mainstream and turned into the very thing it was parodying.
If a cite can be found for this, perhaps it should be added.
"Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is utterly impossible to parody a Creationist in such a way that someone won't mistake it for the genuine article."-I'm a real Creationist who's been accused of being a Parody. But I feel the same can be said of Evolutionists from our POV. To me what they genuinely believe is genuinely funny.
The Conservopedia Poe's Law page may well be an example of Strawman Has a Point, I'm sure arguing the Helocentric model before and contemporary with Galileo may well have made some people think what Poe thought, or would have if there where internet message boards back then.
I'd like to know the basis for saying that Black Cats and 13 being unlucky are Christian superstitions in origin? Cause I'm pretty sure Black Cats go back to Pre-Christian Paganism.
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and 13 is more universal as well, I think I read somewhere that it's bad luck in Japan because their words for 13 and death sound similar.
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There should be examples of instances considered to be parody by some but later taken seriously. Two examples: -Planned Parenthood ran an ad asking "When will they come to investigate your miscarriage?" I first saw this ad in a college textbook as an analysis of the Slippery Slope fallacy. Recently, a Republican legislator in the Midwest proposed a bill to do just that. -Dr Pepper ran an ad which promised a free bottle of Doctor Pepper if Guns'N Roses finally released "Chinese Democracy" in 2008. Axl Rose made a statement not long after saying that he indeed planned to do so.
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suuuuuuuure.
...And even I make no pretense Of having more than common sense - R.W.Wood
Calling the "Slippery Slope" a fallacy is absurd to me, all of Human history is the Slippery Slope argument playing itself out.
There seem to be two separate things being discussed here: 1) "I mistook a parody of something for the real thing because the real thing is so egregious"; 2) "People I don't like mistook a parody for the real thing because they're so stupid." #2 would actually be something like "Misaimed Fandom".
One of the measures for Acceptable vs Unacceptable Targets—can Poe's Law be invoked? Is claiming "Well, they're *really* like that!" acceptable or not?
I really feel we should change the page quote. Isn't this trope supposed to be about how anybody can mistake an extreme view of whatever or a parody of such a view for one or the other, given how we, as socieity are exposed to them? Instead the quote implies that anyone who doesn't know if it's a parody or not is a "dumb motherfucker." Granted this is the case for some, but it seems to me, more often than not it's about things like someone who's never heard of christwire.org before and then comes across this: http://christwire.org/2011/11/is-skyrim-teaching-your-children-how-to-perform-rim-jobs-and-other-homo-erotic-sex-maneuvers/. This was the case for me, I had no idea this was a parody website until I read other people's comments, but I am certainly not a dumb motherfucker. When people like Fred Phelps are out there can you blame me for thinking that it was serious at first?~~~~
Not dumb—biased.
If you see something and take it as proof of a despised group's hatefulness/stupidity/other negative trait; and then find out it wasn't a member of that group that said it, but someone trying to make that group look bad; and then you say, "Well, they're really like that, so it still counts as proof"—that's one of the basic memetic defenses for a bias. And it's one of the reasons smear campaigns work.
What is this?
- The infamous movie The Room, auteured by Tommy Wiseau, is so So Bad Its Horrible that it often provokes the reaction that it must be a Stealth Parody, because no movie actually that bad could ever possibly be made.
What you were... (gasp) It mocked Twilight fans?!
Edited by TBeholder ...And even I make no pretense Of having more than common sense - R.W.Wood
Note on the Sokal paper: I have read (though it may have just been on The Other Wiki) that Sokal exposed his prank after Social Text accepted his paper, but before they published it.
They still published it!
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(On Human Odure, published under his pen name "Dr. Shit" is perhaps closer to literal than A Modest Proposal).
I can't find any reference to this text, anywhere.
Reply to Blork from the archive: No, I understand perfectly well that Jack Chick was not meant as a parody, but it its still [[Narm funny]]. Only for a brief moment did I think it was a parody and only because it looked so much like "The lighter side of MAD". Every example of satire, sarcasm or parody I see on this trope however, are of this nature to me and I get this reaction for it when I'm not laughing.
Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: What to do with the examples on this page (Poe's Law)?
, started by Ultimatum on Feb 28th 2011 at 11:37:29 AM
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman