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iansimsjam
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12:11:56 AM Feb 19th 2014
If this trope is Flame Bait, why isn't it listed in Darth Wiki?
SeptimusHeap
04:40:57 AM Feb 19th 2014
Being Flame Bait does not necessarily means we put it in Darth.
poi99
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07:13:42 PM Sep 10th 2013
"Try praising 21st Century remakes, any of them, and then expect to get THOUSANDS of haters getting mad at you."

Not an example. If you don't understand why I'm saying that, take a second and think about who exactly is the target demo for remakes. Is it fans of the original? No, because remakes usually (read: always) modernize their source material. Is it younger people who haven't seen the original? If so...why a remake?

tl;dr: Remakes don't have a clear-cut age/generation demographic or periphery, so they're not part of this trope.
XFllo
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07:51:54 PM Jul 10th 2013
I deleted this because it contradicts itself. Repair, Don't Respond.

  • Goosebumps sometimes gets this when people who have viewed it through the Nostalgia Filter come back and read the books, and decide they're not actually very good.
    • This is not quite this trope; it's kind of a variant of Hype Backlash where the person hyping it is actually your own younger self. Played straight, though, in that parents or older siblings who are being exposed to the books for the first time tend to find them pretty bland.

Littleloup
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01:15:49 PM Jun 4th 2013
Why is there no comic book section? I'd add it myself but it seems like such a huge omission that maybe there's a reason for it? I mean, the whole medium has a peripheral hatedom, and there are Plenty within as well.
XFllo
07:49:30 PM Jul 10th 2013
Feel free to add it; as far as I know there is no embargo on comic books here. If you think it might be Flame Bait, ask for peer review at forum. Or you may PM any of the mods to ask...
Littleloup
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01:12:34 PM Jun 4th 2013
Why is there no comic book secti
Littleloup
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01:11:56 PM Jun 4th 2013
Why is there no comics section? I'd add it myself but it's such a big omissi
Kid
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10:15:49 PM Mar 11th 2013
I'm reading through the main trope description, and it seems to me like it's got a lot of Take Thats, rants, and...well, outright insults in it. It rambles on, taking pot shots at people who hate something, and doesn't really add anything to the page as a whole. It needs some major editing to make it less hateful overall and more succinct, I think.
VictorDamazio
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01:37:55 PM Jan 15th 2013
edited by VictorDamazio
Added this:

However, keep in mind that just because something is intended for a specific audience that sometimes is not very concerned with the quality of the work, that doesn't mean the creators have an excuse to be lazy, so, if the Periphery Hatedom proves that even for it's intended target audience the work isn't good, then they can have a point ("Just because something is made for kids, that doesn't mean they are free to treat them like idiots").

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Please keep it there, so the pages Periphery Hatedom and It's Not Supposed to Win Oscars won't be contradictory.
gibberingtroper
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09:02:45 PM Jun 24th 2012
Removed the entry on the Titanic:
  • Titanic - when that romantic film aimed at women came out, males (outside the target demographic) went through Hype Backlash. This continued until Avatar broke Titanic's record as the highest-grossing film of all time - and became the new target for backlash.*

Here's why. You don't make the highest budget movie of the decade and only target it at the romance crowd. This movie was also billed as a disaster movie and a human tragedy drama. That's why guys like yours truly went to see it, and that's why when the romance basically trampled over everything meaningful that happened in the real historical event we got upset. This movie was targeted at men and women. Why throw in the completely needless topless shot otherwise?
septembergrrl
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01:57:08 PM Jun 19th 2012
Cutting this:

  • Rock Lee's Springtime of Youth, for just for the fact that it's replacing Bleach's timeslot. It doesn't help that the Bleach anime was cancelled, and ends at the conclusion of the Lost Agent arc. For those who don't know, the arc that comes after this is The Thousand Year Blood War arc, Bleach's Final Arc!

I'm not highly familiar with the works, but it just doesn't seem to fit the trope if they're both animes appealing to a similar audience, and the main reason for the dislike is as stated above.
anoni
03:18:24 PM Apr 22nd 2013
edited by 216.99.32.43
The Rock Lee Anime is based on a manga that runs in Saikyo Jump, a sister manga to Weekly Shonen jump that contains mainly spin-offs of manga in WSJ.

It's aimed at an audience of kids too young to read WSJ. And Bleach doesn't have a spinoff.

So in essence, Bleach got replaced by a Spin-off of it's biggest rival thats aimed at a much younger audience than either Bleach or Naruto

Does that help any?
EmmaWoodhouse18
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02:35:02 PM Jan 3rd 2012
It seems like there are a lot of people on this page who are confusing this trope with They Changed It, Now It Sucks or Complaining about Shows You Don't Watch. To be clear, this isn't just not liking the show, this is when you are someone who is not supposed to like the show - e.g. a childless adult complaining about Barney. Also, all the weird examples of former fans deriding newer versions would seem to be the exact opposite of this trope; they're clearly in the intended demographic. I think we need to do some serious overhauling with this page.
Thorn14
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04:52:09 PM Dec 28th 2011
Can I remove the aspect of "Fan Dumb" from the "puritanical fans of traditional mecha"?

It comes off as if people who enjoy traditional mecha are dumb.
kablammin45
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01:58:56 PM Oct 17th 2011
Does "Family Circus" qualify for this trope? This troper has this feeling that everyone who hates it are males between the ages of 10 and 30.
jerodast
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10:46:42 PM Aug 23rd 2011
Really, Tinker Toys? Girls thought tinker toys were stupid? The violent/sport stuff I get, but tinker toys? Who doesn't like tinker toys?

Clearly girls are stupid.
CounterBlitzkrieg
04:32:00 PM Aug 28th 2011
What the hell?
Webby
03:24:13 PM Sep 26th 2011
I don't know about now, but when I was a little girl, at least, Tinker Toys were never aimed specifically at boys. (It wasn't too long ago, though.) Nor are they stereotypically macho; they're practically a blank canvas! You can pretend whatever the heck you want with them. That's like saying Legos are gender-specific.

I think I knew a total of one kid who didn't like building-related toys, but she was the exception.
Spinosegnosaurus77
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01:37:19 PM Aug 1st 2011
Uh, the bottom part of the "Western Animation" folder is an unorganized mess.
hayleychaotix
06:46:40 PM Aug 1st 2011
edited by hayleychaotix
Yeah, I'm confused. They're seperated when you go to edit them.
Spinosegnosaurus77
12:08:28 PM Aug 3rd 2011
It's fixed!
78.105.234.201
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10:29:08 PM Oct 18th 2010
I've deleted this.

  • Despite the fact that Ebert's wife, Chaz, is black.

For the last f***ing time, having a black wife, best friend, stepbrother, whatever is not some kind of tautological proof that you're not racist. Just because you don't have a stereotypical attitude towards one member of a group does not mean you don't have stereotypical attitudes towards that group as a whole.

For comparison: Strom Thurmond had black mistresses (and a half black daughter) and also led the senate's longest filibuster against civil rights.

LordSeth
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07:49:44 PM Oct 14th 2010
I'm confused by this bit at the top: "There are subjectives, and then there are these. While you may believe a work fits here, and you might be right, people tend to have rather vocal, differing opinions about this subject. You can add examples on this page and its subpages, but please keep these off of the work's page."

...what's subjective? No one will deny that a show like Barney and Friends, for example, is an example of this. Whether you think it deserves the hatred is of course subjective, but it is OBJECTIVE to say that it exists.
Spinosegnosaurus77
12:52:21 PM Sep 17th 2011
Yeah. I'll see if they can have that reworded.
Littleloup
01:11:03 PM Jun 4th 2013
I agree that this isn't subjective, because it should stay unbiased. Someone can dislike something that's not made for them and still have valid reasons to dislike the thing, or they might not, it doesn't matter.
ThinksTooMuch
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05:29:11 PM Sep 29th 2010
Cutting this:

Consider it the difference between "horrible" and "uncool"... only it's kids and teenagers who are the most obsessed with being cool. There may be a tinge of jealousy - consider the young boys who shriek in impotent nerd rage about anything and everything designed to appeal to teenage girls, or the young girls who scoff and roll their eyes at science fiction, comics, or other stuff teenage boys like. Perhaps these young people are just jealous of anything that takes the opposite sex's attentions away from them. Or perhaps they're just annoyed that they aren't the primary demographic for everything.

Why? Well, one, it doesn't make any sense, and two, there's a hell of a sexist Double Standard. Speaking as a girl sustained by fantasy and sci-fi during my teen years, I seriously object to the implications. Given the site, I'm betting some others feel the same.
RHJunior
04:24:52 AM Sep 12th 2011
I think a lot of the periphery hatedom comes from the captive audience... that is to say, the poor unfortunate souls (parents, siblings, best friends, significant others) who are forced, by proximity and circumstance, to watch/listen to/read/view the material in question. Any parent who has to choose between having their house torn apart by their kids and being driven insane by endless reruns of Barney the Dinosaur or Spongebob Squarepants has my sympathy. And as the joke goes: "Star Wars was made for the little child in all of us. The Star Wars Prequels were made for the little child sitting next to all of us in the theatre...." And then there's the countless poor sods who have to tolerate constantly hearing about "team Edward" because of their sisters, girlfriends, wives and mothers....
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