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01:31:25 PM Aug 3rd 2011
Is it just me or does the new title change the definition of the trope entirely? Before it included moments that were built up to but never actually happened. The rename excludes those completely and makes it exclusively things that happened, but not on-screen.
09:47:03 AM Aug 4th 2011
Yeah, it looks like the definition is now completely different. Tbh, it feel like just a way to subtly kill off Missed Moment of Awesome.

This vendetta against negativity the wiki has gained is starting to annoy me.
09:54:45 AM Aug 4th 2011
It's less a vendetta against negativity and more that the trope was being misused even with that expanded definition. "The viewer wishes they'd done this instead" isn't a trope. You could list pages and pages of things that an individual viewer wishes would happen, half of which would be so improbable, inappropriate, or just odd that you can't see why anyone would expect it, and the other half would be whining along the lines of, "Well, if the director didn't suck, then this would've happened."

The wiki isn't about complaining about things that didn't happen. It's about cataloguing tropes used in storytelling.
03:09:00 PM Aug 4th 2011
edited by Kanten
The problem is that those examples no longer have a trope page. They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot applies to a full storyline, not moments. "Cataloguing tropes" is good until you see the massive number of subjective tropes on the list. Things are starting to feel a little too much like The Other Wiki lately.

"We are not a stuffy encyclopedic wiki. We're a buttload more informal. We encourage breezy language and original thought."
06:42:55 PM Aug 13th 2011
Those examples don't have a trope page because, as Mr Death said, they aren't examples of a trope.
10:36:13 AM Aug 29th 2011
edited by DynamiteXI
I say it still fits under the purview of analysis of fiction. Which is to say, a trope or an aversion thereof. Really, Missed Moment of Awesome is, by its definition, an aversion of something.

Take for example Toy Story 3. They brought back Erik Von Detten to voice Sid in a couple of scenes, but they passed on a chance to have a grown up Sid see the toys moving around. His being there sets up Chekhov's Gunman in savvy viewers' minds, but sadly averts it. Missed Moment of Awesome.

As I see it, Missed Moment of Awesome could possibly work as a fanfiction trope with a little fudging. Which is to say, a fanfic writer sees a missed moment in a work, and decides to rectify it in a fanfic.*

That, or Missed Moment of Awesome belongs in Darth Wiki.
09:30:23 AM Dec 7th 2011
edited by Caswin
I could see that. The original poster is right: This originally was a completely different trope with that meaning. Now I keep seeing entries that were legitimate being pulled out because that's "not what the trope means", often with a note to the effect of "now-stop-your-whiny-shoehorning", when it was actually a perfectly accurate use of the original trope. Is it too late for the original content to be archived somewhere?
01:37:18 PM May 15th 2016
As far as i can tell it was precisely BECAUSE the tittle could've been interpreted differently that it was changed. Tittle is a tittle, definition is definition. The examples could've fit original tittle but not original definition and tittle was simply misleading leading to shoehorns.
03:40:02 PM Feb 21st 2011
A very tangential and dependent one. Because 3.X D&D golems aren't brought to life by a symbol on their heads, it misses the moment of awesome where a rogue could defeat them with a sleight of hand check, effectively defeating it by stealing a letter.
11:44:35 PM Sep 23rd 2010
About Tesla and the Death Ray... the story goes that the first time Tesla tested it, the Tunguska Blast of 1908 occured. Since Tesla had no way of knowing if it was just a coincidence, or if his machine was somehow responsible, he promptly destroyed it and all his notes, and vowed never to work on it again. Of course, as with any story about Tesla, the truthfulness of this is uncertain.
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