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03:07:09 PM May 19th 2013
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Does Word of God need apply for a show to be this trope? Or can it be a show that doesn't have/barely has any romance despite the setting implying it should? Example: a show based around teenagers yet no romance ensues.
03:11:10 PM Oct 9th 2012
Alastair Reynolds works are actually a bad example. Though yeah, they don't focus on romance that much, it's weird to consider them having no romance at all. I guess the troper who added that entry hasn't read his works closely or has a pretty different definition of "romance". At least three to four couples appear in explicit romantic relationship in the Revelation Space series alone. I'd hardly call the stuff that goes on No Hugging, No Kissing. Sorry for the spoiler, but I'll give an example: Ana Khouri is separated from her husband and her life is in shambles when she realizes she might never meet him again (slower than light travel, long story). She soldiers on, later hooks up with a bumbling La Résistance guy, has a child with him, the guy dies off screen and her daughter becomes one of the main characters in the final installment of the trilogy. And in the same book, she is eventually reunited with... Well, take a wild guess. I'd hardly call that "nonexistant romance" or "romance inconsequential to the plot". Just because Reynolds' works are mostly noirish space operas doesn't mean the characters are a load of impersonal automatons (some are, but the main cast is mostly closer to the relatable Average Joe). Just my two cents on why I think the entry is Square Peg, Round Trope.
10:30:49 PM Jul 1st 2011
I'm a little unsure about this example:
  • Despite the fact that the relationship between Rosette and Chrono is a major part of the story of Chrono Crusade, the word 'love' does not appear in the manga, in any context, ever. It's also open to debate whether or not the two ever kiss (The angle on their final scene on the Pandaemonium leaves it ambiguous).

I don't want to sound like a crazy fangirl or anything, but I'm nooot sure the final scene kiss is really all that ambiguous. It's at an odd angle, yeah, but it's still pretty clear that they're kissing (particularly with the build up their relationship has after volume 6). And while the word "love" is never mentioned specifically, there's a ton of romance-specific tropes used to flesh out their relationship, and they are seen hugging several times in a way that seems pretty romantic, both in-story and in official art. I honestly don't think Chrono Crusade fits the trope description very well, and I'm tempted to delete this example. Would that be fair at all? Or should I keep it in?
01:21:48 AM Jan 26th 2011
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This is a Love Trope, as in 'romance' trope, right? The use of it as an aversion/subversion on the Professor Layton pages is confusing since it's used for when Flora and Luke hug the professor too :| Pretty sure that's not how it goes?
09:39:59 PM Jan 23rd 2011
This trope's description and most of the examples talk about works that are intended to contain no romance at all. However, I've seen claims to examples of this trope in works with lots of romance and in-universe shipping but little or no physical affection (e.g. Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice and Emma). I consider the latter to be quite distinct from the former, and significant enough to be a trope unto itself.

So do both no-romance works and no-touching romantic works belong here? If we were to split these into two tropes, what might we call each of them?
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