I haven't seen whatever it comes from, but I can tell that, even if it's narm in the film, it's meant to be scary. The image is there at the desire of the admin.

I see. So there's no chance of changing it, then? There are plenty of great images that could be used. Is using an image from the image links against the rules or no?

[I did go and watch it in the context. Still not scary. And that's saying something, cause I'm really easily scared]

^Yes. No chance, Image Links pics not allowed at all, unless you can convince FE to change it.

You could open an IP thread about it, but there's a high chance it would get zapped by a mod/admin. I expect that a lot of the image links are scarier and would legitimately give nightmares (I avoid them for that reason!), but I do wonder if part of the reason for this image is to avoid someone being scarred if they come across the page by accident. Not likely, I know, but it means the image isn't something you'd want to avoid being on your computer screen at work.

Ninja'd.

^I think the reason is mostly the edit warring about the image.

I think it gets the point across while being Safe For Sanity.

Do we really need a list of scary stuff in real life? Go here to vote for it staying or going; that item was briefly called as having No Real Life Examples, but it has been opened again.

I don't see it in the list there, does that mean it's coming back? I hope so, I liked that page a lot.

It isn't coming back. The crowner was restarted as it was getting crowded.

I think it was a dumb idea to remove it though - I know that a lot of people including me enjoyed looking at that page, and it shows what kind of nightmare fuel there is in real life - nothing's happened to the Real Life section for the over Crowning Moments pages.

That's under discussion here.

It was my favorite page! I know this might sound impractical, but I think we need a Nightmare Fuel wiki.

Somebody screwed up the redirect. Edit it to point to Homestuck

... This feels like suppression of ideas, if you ask me. Like a lot of the fun out of the nightmare fuel is thus being taken out.

Um, "suppression of ideas"? Those four rules are meant to apply to every page on the wiki, and they've been there for as long as the wiki has. Cleaning up pages to adhere to the basic standards of the site is not "taking out the fun", it's keeping people from trying to have fun in ways that they were never allowed to in the first place.

Accidental Nightmare Fuel has been going out the trope repair shop due to horrendous misuse for years, and no one ever bothered to do the cleanup. Thus, it can no longer be catalogued. The rest are safe for now. Subpages have temporarily been removed from the main page but have not been deleted.

Fair enough.

So, uh... where can I find them?

The Wayback Machine or other archives could probably bring them up.

The High Octane Nightmare Fuel is missing its examples. I'm wigging out!

Well I tried cleaning up HONF pages. I once had one of my edits undone with a clarification that just because I don't find something scary it doesn't mean it doesn't belong, that I'm being rude etc. The example I removed that got restored was referring to a guy being killed by a big ass arrow through the chest. That is not what High Octane Nightmare Fuel means. I didn't stop cleaning up the page though, put people just keep adding stuff that don't belong to all of them on a daily basis from Wham Episode to Adult Fear, to people making scarry faces, to major injuries to Fridge Horror, even hypothetical situations that never even happen in canon. But hey. It's supposedly subjective so it's all fine. Still if nobody else bothers to clean up, someone has to do it.

I don't think you're supposed to do that. While I do agree with you on the hypotheical stuff ( that belongs on Fridge Horror or Accidental Nightmare Fuel), you can't just get rid of things that were intended to shock or be scary just based on how much it scared you. It's a rule right on the main page.

You weren't paying attention? It got renamed to Accidental Nightmare Fuel, for cryin' out loud!

Yeah, and I can't entirely say I care for it. The page quote from MST 3 K is good old fashioned nightmare fuel. Not good old fashioned accidental nightmare fuel. Just saying.

Yeah. The page was being misused all over place so we had to change the name to something more clear.

Whoever renamed this page should have thought things through. Some people have been too lazy to distinguish between "regular" and High Octane Nightmare Fuel. As a result, anywhere on this entire website where it originally just said "Nightmare Fuel" in now says "Accidental Nightmare Fuel" for a lot of stuff that clearly isn't accidental. I did a massive cleanup of the Anime section, where the vast majority of examples listed are in fact indistinguishable from HONF, and also relocated the folders for Hayao Miyazaki and Princess Tutu into High Octane Nightmare Fuel. However, I'm not gonna be able to check every single works page to see whether anything says "Accidental" or "High Octane/Unleaded". (Not to mention that there are some western cartoons that I'd rather not deal with, which have their own folders.)

Something really should be done about this whole thing. Who's interested in fixing everything?

Make Nightmare Fuel as a redirect to High Octane Nightmare Fuel.

Rename it only half or less of work.

I think redirecting Nightmare Fuel to High Octane Nightmare Fuel would be a good idea as well. The other redirection titles for this page (Unintentional Nightmare Fuel, Nightmare Fuel For Kids) cover it just as well. There are a LOT of entries that were probably meant to be High Octane and come here instead. (For that matter, should High Octane Nightmare Fuel have the alternate title "Nightmare Fuel For Everyone"?)

Actually, maybe even better would be to give Nightmare Fuel a page of that title, with the definitions of Accidental and High Octane Nightmare Fuel on it, and *links* to those respective pages. As it is, there's a lot of pages whose source says "Nightmare Fuel" and could go either way (like Scary Scarecrows) that automatically redirect here. (The sentence in question, in the definition part of the page, originally read "As such, scarecrows are brilliant Nightmare Fuel fodder"— and it applies both in the Accidental and High Octane way. It shouldn't automatically go here, nor automatically read "Accidental Nightmare Fuel fodder" like it currently does.)

As it turns out, the page for Unwinnable does just what I was suggesting should be done for Nightmare Fuel, and would be a good model to base a revamp on. I'd also suggest creating a "Deliberate Nightmare Fuel" page and having High Octane Nightmare Fuel redirect to it (noting that there is deliberate nightmare fuel that is meant to scare kids, and deliberate that is meant to scare EVERYONE).

Often, people are more easily scared in the dark.

Well, if you Deconstruct it and take a good look at it, the entire point of that show is that a bunch of kids have an unhealthy obsession with a toy - an inaminate object - that somehow, possibly through the dark arts, transmutes itself into a giant sentient stuffed dinosaur. These kids don't appear to have any parents, and if they do, their parents don't seem to have any qualms about letting them devote their entire existence to this Eldritch Abomination disguising itself as a happy purple dinosaur. If we're to believe the theme song, which states that Barney comes "from [their] imagination", who's to say the kids aren't just totally insane and hallucinating the entire thing? How do we know it's just simple children's make-believe games? For all we know, they could have such traumatic lives that their only outlet of peace and tranquility is to imagine themselves engaging in "fun and games" with Barney.

As for Barney himself, the thing is a dinosaur that resembles a Lighter And Softer caricature of a tyrranosaurus rex - if he were in any way realistic, he'd be trying to eviscerate the kids and devour their bloody remains, not teach them about love and happiness; which in itself is a little creepy. Isn't Barney's "fondess" for the kid a little suspicious? It seems to me like he's trying to intoxicate and indoctrinate the poor children with his talk of love - kind of like a crazy cult leader subtly manipulating the kids' minds and earning their trust. And that huge, disfiguring smile...maybe Barney is a Stepford Smiler who's only pretending to enjoy his tormented existence of humouring the children, and is constantly subject to And I Must Scream-style imprisonment in his stuffed toy form; or maybe that's his Slasher Smile and he really does want to capture and consume the kids he's lulling into a false sense of security?

I just found Sugarwiki and I find if confusing. but itt seems as the main point of it is for opinions, so shouldn't both this and Fetish Fuel both belong there?

Sugar wiki is for positive opinions. Nightmare Fuel is not positive or negative.

This trope is for *Accidental* Nightmare Fuel. If you find Barney scary for whatever reason, given that he isn't meant to be, then this is where it goes.

I would say Nightmare Fuel. Yeah, generally it's unintentionally scary things to kids, but there's a lot of cross over and I think Nightmare Fuel can extend to "general audiences/relatively unoffensive to kids" and HONF is "exclusively adult."

no, Nightmare Fuel=unintentionally scary, not necessarily children's media.

What's on that video? Ingmar

The OP is wrong, here. Nightmare Fuel is for things that fuel nightmares. We have no way to perceive intentions in author's minds.