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mysticpenguin
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11:32:33 PM Mar 17th 2010
edited by mysticpenguin
Okay, so Nightmare Fuel is for unintentionally scary children's media, Defanged Horrors is for intentionally scary children's media, and High Octane Nightmare Fuel is for stuff that's genuinely meant to scare adults. Got it. But what about the stuff for grown-ups that isn't meant to be scary but is anyway? For example, the [1] 1979 music video for "Roly Poly Fish Heads." I don't think it's meant to be terrifying, it's just a silly little novelty song. And yet... holy shit. Where would something like that fit?
MegaJ
11:41:43 PM Mar 17th 2010
I would say Nightmare Fuel. Yeah, generally it's unintentionally scary things to kids, but there's a lot of cross over and I think Nightmare Fuel can extend to "general audiences/relatively unoffensive to kids" and HONF is "exclusively adult."
ading
04:32:36 AM Mar 7th 2011
no, Nightmare Fuel=unintentionally scary, not necessarily children's media.
78.15.241.93
09:19:28 AM Mar 16th 2011
What's on that video? Ingmar
66.109.50.135
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07:24:34 AM Apr 16th 2010
I think that barney is scary.
TheLuckyStar
08:48:44 AM Apr 16th 2010
edited by DrStarky
Well, if you Deconstruct it and take a good look at it, the entire point of that show is that a bunch of kids have an unhealthy obsession with a toy - an inaminate object - that somehow, possibly through the dark arts, transmutes itself into a giant sentient stuffed dinosaur. These kids don't appear to have any parents, and if they do, their parents don't seem to have any qualms about letting them devote their entire existence to this Eldritch Abomination disguising itself as a happy purple dinosaur. If we're to believe the theme song, which states that Barney comes "from [their] imagination", who's to say the kids aren't just totally insane and hallucinating the entire thing? How do we know it's just simple children's make-believe games? For all we know, they could have such traumatic lives that their only outlet of peace and tranquility is to imagine themselves engaging in "fun and games" with Barney.

As for Barney himself, the thing is a dinosaur that resembles a Lighter And Softer caricature of a tyrranosaurus rex - if he were in any way realistic, he'd be trying to eviscerate the kids and devour their bloody remains, not teach them about love and happiness; which in itself is a little creepy. Isn't Barney's "fondess" for the kid a little suspicious? It seems to me like he's trying to intoxicate and indoctrinate the poor children with his talk of love - kind of like a crazy cult leader subtly manipulating the kids' minds and earning their trust. And that huge, disfiguring smile...maybe Barney is a Stepford Smiler who's only pretending to enjoy his tormented existence of humouring the children, and is constantly subject to And I Must Scream-style imprisonment in his stuffed toy form; or maybe that's his Slasher Smile and he really does want to capture and consume the kids he's lulling into a false sense of security?

75.68.205.80
11:25:19 AM Jun 5th 2010
I just found Sugarwiki and I find if confusing. but itt seems as the main point of it is for opinions, so shouldn't both this and Fetish Fuel both belong there?
ading
05:58:50 AM Apr 17th 2011
Sugar wiki is for positive opinions. Nightmare Fuel is not positive or negative.
McKnight
03:22:24 AM May 5th 2011
This trope is for *Accidental* Nightmare Fuel. If you find Barney scary for whatever reason, given that he isn't meant to be, then this is where it goes.
SonicZack
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05:10:21 PM Dec 21st 2010
edited by SonicZack
picture wouldn't come up for some reason.
TsundeRay
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11:53:45 PM Dec 23rd 2010
Due to the number of tropers going "haha this troper got scared by so and so thing what a pussy", I've put the following disclaimer on this and High Octane Nightmare Fuel; is this okay?

Keep in mind: This is a Subjective Trope. Some of the entries here may come off as nothing scary to you, and that's fine. That does not give you the right to delete an entry or argue over it on its respective page. Calling someone a wimp because something that you don't mind creeped them out is rude.
Ramenth
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10:13:05 PM Jan 26th 2011
Why are the sub-pages for this now black? Seems to remove any degree of serious consideration it could possible receive. Aren't we supposed to at least look objective?
Bhaal
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08:13:04 PM Feb 6th 2011
Quick question really; I noticed on one of the indexes at the bottom, Web was followed by Original, Animation, and Series, but the only real link to the whole thing was 'Web.' After that, it was just regular text.

Here's my question; how did that get there? I fixed the problem, in any case, but I'm just curious how it got there.
Slash0mega
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02:49:03 PM Apr 19th 2011
did this page name change? i am not imagining that accidental nightmare fuel was the nightmare fuel page right?
DrStarky
09:31:22 AM Apr 25th 2011
Yeah. The page was being misused all over place so we had to change the name to something more clear.
McKnight
03:19:47 AM May 5th 2011
Whoever renamed this page should have thought things through. Some people have been too lazy to distinguish between "regular" and High Octane Nightmare Fuel. As a result, anywhere on this entire website where it originally just said "Nightmare Fuel" in now says "Accidental Nightmare Fuel" for a lot of stuff that clearly isn't accidental. I did a massive cleanup of the Anime section, where the vast majority of examples listed are in fact indistinguishable from HONF, and also relocated the folders for Hayao Miyazaki and Princess Tutu into High Octane Nightmare Fuel. However, I'm not gonna be able to check every single works page to see whether anything says "Accidental" or "High Octane/Unleaded". (Not to mention that there are some western cartoons that I'd rather not deal with, which have their own folders.)

Something really should be done about this whole thing. Who's interested in fixing everything?
DeathCloud
12:59:29 PM May 26th 2011
Make Nightmare Fuel as a redirect to High Octane Nightmare Fuel.

Rename it only half or less of work.

WillBGood
05:19:42 PM Jul 11th 2011
I think redirecting Nightmare Fuel to High Octane Nightmare Fuel would be a good idea as well. The other redirection titles for this page (Unintentional Nightmare Fuel, Nightmare Fuel For Kids) cover it just as well. There are a LOT of entries that were probably meant to be High Octane and come here instead. (For that matter, should High Octane Nightmare Fuel have the alternate title "Nightmare Fuel For Everyone"?)
WillBGood
05:39:43 PM Jul 11th 2011
Actually, maybe even better would be to give Nightmare Fuel a page of that title, with the definitions of Accidental and High Octane Nightmare Fuel on it, and *links* to those respective pages. As it is, there's a lot of pages whose source says "Nightmare Fuel" and could go either way (like Scary Scarecrows) that automatically redirect here. (The sentence in question, in the definition part of the page, originally read "As such, scarecrows are brilliant Nightmare Fuel fodder"— and it applies both in the Accidental and High Octane way. It shouldn't automatically go here, nor automatically read "Accidental Nightmare Fuel fodder" like it currently does.)

WillBGood
07:03:17 PM Jul 17th 2011
As it turns out, the page for Unwinnable does just what I was suggesting should be done for Nightmare Fuel, and would be a good model to base a revamp on. I'd also suggest creating a "Deliberate Nightmare Fuel" page and having High Octane Nightmare Fuel redirect to it (noting that there is deliberate nightmare fuel that is meant to scare kids, and deliberate that is meant to scare EVERYONE).
Sol9000
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09:46:47 PM Sep 8th 2011
What happened to the Nightmare Fuel Page!?!
SamMax
05:54:06 PM Oct 7th 2011
edited by SamMax
You weren't paying attention? It got renamed to Accidental Nightmare Fuel, for cryin' out loud!
DrWhooves
11:08:12 PM Oct 26th 2011
Yeah, and I can't entirely say I care for it. The page quote from MST 3 K is good old fashioned nightmare fuel. Not good old fashioned accidental nightmare fuel. Just saying.
PulpoOscuro
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08:16:58 PM Jan 15th 2012
So I was in the Image Links page and I looked at that Cordyceps picture. While undeniably frightening, I'm not sure if it qualifies... does it still count because Cordyceps (as far as we know) doesn't care if it scares us or not?
PulpoOscuro
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08:16:59 PM Jan 15th 2012
edited by PulpoOscuro
please excuse my double post
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