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05:57:02 AM Apr 30th 2013
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[url][/url]: If Rourke hadn't betrayed Helga by throwing her off his blimp, he may have been able to sell the crystal and have his dough
07:44:59 PM Aug 11th 2012
Is there no real life examples in this trope because it involves politics, like the Nice Job Breaking It, Hero! trope?
04:45:21 PM Jan 9th 2012
"This is not repeat NOT the villain's plan backfiring in favor of the forces of good. That is not what "fixing" means."

Says who? The opposite of this would qualify in "Nice Job Breaking it Hero", so why not here?
06:27:16 PM Aug 14th 2011
edited by DoKnowButchie
Deleted incorrect examples:

  • Ozai has a second helping of this that deserves a medal for just how astoundingly long it takes to come around and bite him, compared to just how much it does. The simple act of banishing Zuko provides Aang with an extremely powerful ally without which Aang never would have learned Firebending, let alone True Firebending. Even before the Heel–Face Turn, how many times has he saved Aang from someone else because of his obsession with being the one to bring him in (which technically makes Zuko guilty of this)? Zuko even tells Ozai while visiting him in prison that he wants to thank him for exiling him because it was the best thing that could have happened to him. Talk about twisting the knife there.

Zukko's banishment occurs years before there's anything to "fix", meaning the example doesn't satisfy the first criterion.

  • An episode of The Simpsons has Moe try to cripple Mr. Burns so he can't bowl (thus ensuring Homer's team can substitute someone more competent). He ends up fixing a pain in his knee.

Doesn't satisfy the first criterion: what exactly is "problem that, for whatever reason, makes it difficult, if not impossible, to win. If this thing isn't overcome, all will be lost"?

  • In another episode, Shredder and Krang have repowered the Technodrome, taken control of the city, and captured the turtles and sent them to Dimension X. The turtles escape from their prison their and contact Shredder to tell to him he didn't really win since he didn't beat them in combat. So he opens the portal and brings them back. It doesn't take them long to foil their plans.

Doesn't satisfy the first criterion.

  • The first episode and, by extension, the entire Batman Beyond series stems from the fixings of a villain. Terry McGinnis was a punk kid with anger management issues and Bruce Wayne was a bitter recluse, both living in a future Gotham that was worse than ever, before Derek Powers had Terry's father killed to cover up the fact that Powers is using Bruce's company to manufacture nerve gas. This leads to Terry becoming Batman, and Bruce is angry enough to come out of retirement and start reclaiming the company while training Terry to be a proper Batman.

Doesn't satisfy the first criterion. What, exactly, is the problem Power solves by killing Terry's dad?

  • A less villainous version in Totally Spies! Mandy ruined the girls photo that they were about to present to a contest, when judges see it however they find their photo fascinating and original making them the winner of the contest.

Doesn't satisfy the first criterion: there's no problem that Mandy's action solves: if it hadn't happened, the spies would just have had regular pictures.

10:57:23 AM Jun 11th 2011
"In Homestuck, gallowsCalibrator/Terezi Pyrope tries to kill John by making him go through his seventh gate..."

Actually, a (very) recent update has made it seem as if it was entirely intentional, and that she did know that it would result in an offshoot timeline that would power up the original. Might just be my interpretation, but since she is (her sessions'?) seer of mind, and in four recent pages it explains that the seer, especially the seer of mind, sees all of the branching possibilities, and uses that to guide what happens to a more favourable result. (Spoilers, obviously!)
03:06:51 PM Apr 8th 2011
edited by BohBoh
  • In The Matrix, Cipher had begun killing off the crew one by one after his deal with the devil. However, before unplugging Neo, he forces Trinity to admit that she loves him. Unbeknown to the parties involved, that is enough to make him the One, thanks to the Oracle. Almost on cue, some kind of miracle comes along in the form of Tank, who promptly puts an end to our would-be hero killer.

I doubt Trinity actually had the poewr to give Neo One powers. Yes, Trinity helped Neo awaken into One-hood by confessing she loved him, but it's not a literal cause-and-effect "confessing love = moar One powers." She was just using it to prove to Neo that he is the One.

In the scene with Cypher, Trinity confessing didn't make anything happen. It was just foreshadowing the plot point about the man she loves being the One. In fact, the implication seems to be Cypher knew this was the case, hence why he was asking her.
10:02:36 PM Apr 2nd 2011
What about Ghaleon at the end of Lunar: Eternal Blue? Although it was technically part of his plan, he still was a villain at that point and he did force the heroes to figure out how to overcome Lucia stealing their power in order to defeat him at that point in the game...
04:34:46 PM Mar 28th 2011
edited by yunatwilight

This (long) entry is not this trope. Drakken screwed up, but it was by setting up Ron to be his usual Spanner in the Works self. He didn't accidentally solve any problem the heroes already had.
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