Removed this:
- Specifically, he can't have children. Which makes life with his wife and 5 kids less than stellar.
- Maybe for the moment, but Novinha is definitely relieved to have this off her shoulders. Besides, Ender ends up marrying her, so the children get a new father. This time, one who understands and cares for them.
- Unfortunately for Miro and Ouanda, Ender also reveals that they do, in fact, have the same father. It's not entirely clear if they would have made it work, despite the taboos, but Miro's partial paralysis makes the point moot.
- Ender doesn't hide the fact that Marcos is a wife-beater and a drunk. Card points out that the reason he hated this trope is because people, essentially, reinvent the deceased, which is partly a revenge move to erase who they really were. He specifically mentions a Portuguese woman at a funeral he attended wailing (as per custom) over her terrible (and cheating) husband's body, claiming he was a good husband. Essentially, she was punishing him by erasing him. Ender doesn't say that Marcos was a good man. He points out that he did have admirable qualities, even if they were overshadowed by being a complete asshole to everyone around him.
- Specifically, he can't have children. Which makes life with his wife and 5 kids less than stellar.
because it's natter and not that relevant. I did add some of the things in the last sub-bullet to the main Speaker for the Dead example, but deleted most of the rest.
There weren't any weird slashes in the example, but for some reason that happens automatically when I reply to discussions.
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It said not to add real life examples in the article, but I can cite a real life issue with this.
Genealogy. People covering family history have to tiptoe a line with this some people view family history as a place to smile and think happy things about those who are gone, who get REALLY grumpy when they see the family sheets mentioning "depressing" things that happen in real families like genetic diseases, mental problems, suicide, alcohol abuse, etc. These are "bad things" to bring up, but the descendants ought to know what genetic baggage they may encounter - knowledge that can save a life.
"Freedom is not a license for chaos" -Norton Juster's The Dot and the Line: A Romance in Lower Mathematics
You see, this one bothers me a lot. There are people who do not deserve respect after death because of their actions in life. I won't name names because of certain laws, but to be fair, why would we even deserve these people a fair say?
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Perharps it has something to do with the fact they cannot defend themselves anymore after they die, or perharps they are following the Golden rule, "do to others what you would have them do to you."
Maybe they view that once dead, the person achieved a certain level of redemption.
Have you forgotten the face of your father, troper?
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, started by 32_Footsteps on May 21st 2012 at 6:11:30 PM
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