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LoneWolfEbrg
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03:28:07 PM Jun 15th 2014
Are there any examples of characters in fiction who (at least, arguably) fit this "narrative approves of everything they do because they're neutral" trope? I'm asking because it seems like a pretty rare Mary Sue trope.
enkephalin07
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04:04:46 AM Aug 22nd 2013
"this trope usually is either devoid of emotion, or varies from deadpan to emotional to outright unstable"

That's an all-encompassing net. What exactly was it trying to catch? It's usually...what?
VVK
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06:18:53 AM Dec 28th 2012
edited by VVK
The way this page was when I saw it (meaning I don't know its earlier history), it started out describing someone who is morally allowed to do anything because they're "neutral", but then it switched partly to talking about someone who has great neutrality superpowers that can do anything (or something). Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assumed the first was supposed to be the definition (they certainly are not the same thing) and removed the following:

"... if they're taken Up to Eleven, the only one of their kind, and their effects can't be suppressed or countered. Expect them to have Power of the Void, a Hand of Life/Hand of Death, and Yin-Yang Bomb as their power. Usually the protagonist, since as a secondary character their power is usually downsized.

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If the character is a Yin Yang Master, but fits smoothly within the party, they are probably another trope. If they affect the whole balance of the good and evil within the universe, or are the only defender of nature, and without whom the universe suddenly and inexplicably collapses due to the natural laws being disordered, then they might be this trope."

(For reference, the above were placed in the article between things I didn't remove, marked in bold here, as follows:

"The Heroic Neutral, the Nature Hero, Badass Normal, and the Red Mage are all good candidates, if they're taken Up to Eleven, the only one of their kind, and their effects can't be suppressed or countered. Expect them to have Power of the Void, a Hand of Life/Hand of Death, and Yin-Yang Bomb as their power. Usually the protagonist, since as a secondary character their power is usually downsized.

Related to the Fixer Sue, a combination of Purity Sue/Villain Sue, and in some cases the Sympathetic Sue (if backstory and personality flaws are played out heavily).

If the character is a Yin Yang Master, but fits smoothly within the party, they are probably another trope. If they affect the whole balance of the good and evil within the universe, or are the only defender of nature, and without whom the universe suddenly and inexplicably collapses due to the natural laws being disordered, then they might be this trope.")
VVK
06:25:20 AM Dec 28th 2012
Now I also removed this because I don't see how it makes sense (for either definition): "The Heroic Neutral, the Nature Hero, Badass Normal, and the Red Mage are all good candidates."
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