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03:00:20 PM Jun 21st 2013
Ryu and Ken was renamed to Moveset Clone per TRS
05:45:59 PM Aug 6th 2010
  • From latter installments of KOF, there's Kim Kaphwan (originally hailing from Fatal Fury) and his quarrelsome rival/friend Jhun Hoon.
  • Some would also expect Terry and Andy Bogard from Fatal Fury to be Ryu and Ken in their universe. Not so much; while their intense sibling rivalry certainly fills that part of the equation, they move and play very differently from each other.
  • Completely subverted in Guilty Gear by Sol Badguy and Ky Kiske. While both rivals who wield swords, they have completely different fighting styles and, indeed, playing styles. In fact, the only similarity they have is that the past version of Sol Badguy, Order Sol, fights vaguely more like Ky due to being in the same Order.
    • Strangely enough, Ky's EX form in Guilty Gear XX: Accent Core mimicked the actions of standard Sol, as did EX Sol in regards to normal Ky. They basically switch movesets in ex mode. They just use different sprites.
  • BlazBlue, the spiritual sequel to Guilty Gear has Ragna and Jin, estranged brothers who act as that games Ryu and Ken respectively while also being expy's of Sol and Ky from Guilty Gear.
    • Like Ky and Sol, they have very different styles, despite both fighting with swords. Ragna specializes in close-quarters melee beatdowns, while Jin takes a mixed-range approach.
    • Really? Why would BlazBlue be included here? It anything, it is massively subverted here, the same way as it is in Guilty Gear. There are no two characters in BlazBlue with fighting styles even remotely similar to each other, and Ragna and Jin are no exception.
    • Speaking of Capcom intercompany crossovers, this is subverted by both Marvel vs. Capcom where Ken is absent but Ryu can transform into him and Akuma (somewhat), and , which plays with both this trope and Name's The Same by having not Ken Masters but rather Ken the Eagle, leader of the Science Ninja Team, who plays differently from Ryu. They both serve as the poster boys of their respective companies in the game though.
  • The Capcom vs. SNK series set up rivalries between each companies' characters, friendly (Ken Masters and Terry Bogard, Kyo Kusanagi and Ryu) and not-so-friendly (Akuma and Rugal Bernstein, M. Bison and Geese Howard).
  • The Greymon and Garurumon evolutions from the various Digimon series could fit this trope. A nod to this was given in Digimon Savers; when Agumon is sulking in his digivice and the Monster of the Week is a black Garurumon, Kudamon states "Geogreymon would have been perfect to battle him."
  • The character lineups in the Mario And Sonic At The Olympics games are built entirely around this with a Nintendo character as a "Ryu" and a Sega character as a "Ken":
    • Mario and Sonic (primary hero)
    • Yoshi and Tails ("sidekick" character)
    • Wario and Knuckles ("anti-hero/bully" character)
    • Peach and Amy (primary female lead)
    • Luigi and Shadow (Palette Swapped alternate hero)
    • Daisy and Blaze ("other" female characters)
    • Bowser and Eggman (primary villain)
    • Donkey Kong and Metal Sonic (secondary rival)
    • Waluigi/Vector and Bowser Jr./Silver ("other")
  • Also subverted by Scorpion and Sub-Zero from . They're both ninja from rival clans, but their special moves are way different from one another, even if they started out as the same sprites with a Palette Swap.

I am removing the examples that not play similar.
02:46:55 PM Jan 20th 2012
edited by CelticKnot
  • The relationship between Jin and Mugen from Samurai Champloo is an ideal example of this trope.
    • Except for the fact that their fighting styles are entirely different. Jin is calm, controlled, and more traditional with sword fighting. Mugen is wild, unpredictable, and improvises using his surroundings.
Perfect example of what you're talking about. A lot of people seem to misunderstand this trope.
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