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Bionicman
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09:26:05 AM Apr 22nd 2010
edited by Bionicman
I edited the entry about 'Firefly,' removing natter which 1) didn't relate to the topic, 2) bashed the creator needlessly and dubiously, and 3) came across like the troper who added it fit into the description of the misaimed fandom, and was complaining about it.
TominAZ
04:44:09 PM Apr 25th 2010
edited by TominAZ
The day the word "fandom" can be used of this troper's reaction to Firefly is the day he ends his life, no matter how well-aimed that fandom is.

It's not "dubious" to say Whedon's a simplistically feminist hack whose works are full of Straw Misogynists—his fans concede that, except for the "hack" part.

And it is not Misaimed Fandom to like Jayne better than, say, Mal, whose status as an antihero is a very thin veneer over, in essence, Alan Alda. People are allowed to react differently to characters. Emphasizing the good points of an obvious strawman—like Jayne, or any Whedon male who isn't an Author Avatar—is a useful exercise, and would keep creators honest, if they could hear the alternate interpretation over the deafening applause. Besides, it wouldn't take much character development to turn Jayne's relationship with River into Slap Slap Kiss; if the show had lasted longer it would be an almost obvious development, if Whedon could be bothered to flesh out his Straw Misogynist.

Still, the response did roughly count as Natter, this troper concedes the point—and tries to come up with a better way to put it.
94.2.203.188
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04:47:33 PM May 22nd 2010
Can I point out that outside of North America the Official Nintendo Seal is still called the Seal of Quality? (at the very least in Europe)
X-File
06:31:01 AM May 27th 2010
Yes you may, here in Holland it is still on the product. I've seen it pretty much all of my life.

Well, since the NES came around that is.
72.34.2.170
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09:06:50 AM Jun 28th 2010
(Sapphire Redux) What are the other ethnic slurs used in Michael Jackson's "They Don't Care About Us"? I've heard the song many times and read the lyrics, and the only ones brought up were the anti-Semetic ones.
174.20.82.156
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08:36:12 PM Jul 24th 2010
Er, I think the page image could stand revision. It looks to be a Fandom Secret, and the whole point of those is that they aren't something you can openly admit to in fandom due to being Fetish Fuel or the like. They realize it's not intended by the creators or healthy, that's why it's a secret.
Oonerspism
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06:28:14 PM Aug 14th 2010
I'm doing a bit of cleanup on this page. The list of related tropes is freaky long. I stuck it in a folder. Is that all right?
Oonerspism
07:09:54 PM Aug 14th 2010
Cut this from the film section:

  • There are several interviews with Glenn Beck where he, explaining his popularity, compares himself to Howard Beale. No interviewer has yet to ask him why he wants to be seen as a suicidal madman whose mental breakdowns are turned into ratings gold by an amoral corporation.

Mentioning Glenn Beck is just asking for natter, and it doesn't really add anything to the example.
Oonerspism
07:46:24 PM Aug 14th 2010
Cut from Literature (Lolita):

  • Members of the "loud fandom", who think the book is a celebration of older man/teenage girl relationships, apparently miss or ignore the scene in which Humbert plans to impregnate Lolita — so that by the time she's aged beyond his interest, he will already have Lolita 2.0 coming up.
    • Or maybe they just don't see a problem with that?

I don't think that's a critical part of the example. The second point especially.
Oonerspism
09:02:59 PM Aug 14th 2010
I got to halfway through the music section. There are still a couple of things I wasn't sure about (Marvel Civil War, Warrior Cats, The Shield) because I'm not familiar with the works in question. I didn't even bother going through Anime and Manga, because I'd be hopelessly lost. I leave that in the hands of some other intrepid editor.
Dagobitus
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01:15:58 PM Oct 25th 2010
I deleted

For those who don't know, Bellatrix went into a loveless, arranged marriage with her husband, and only because it was expected of her.

It is a common fanon theory, but it ain't in the text
SomewhatMisleading
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02:02:16 PM Jan 9th 2011
Regarding the Taxi Driver example in the Film sub-page... ...the hell is the "W-word"?
Premonition45
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05:46:36 PM Oct 9th 2011
I don't think the Misaimed Hatedom redirect suits this trope. Misaimed Fandom is all about works that are loved in a manner not intended by their makers.

Misaimed Hatedom implies that a work is hated in a manner not intended by the maker, which sounds like Periphery Hatedom aka The Barney. So Misaimed Hatedom is more suitable as a redirect for that trope.
LikaLaruku
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02:01:57 AM Oct 30th 2011
Any chance of getting a Misaimed Genre/Target Audience Fail trope?

Like for example, say there is a comic that was aimed at young men & it not only attracts mostly women but makes most men squick. (It doesn't help that most of these series are actually written by women either). Sometimes the publishers are smart & change the target audience, though most figure that the same costumers will continue to buy reguardless & don't touch it.
SamMax
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10:15:54 AM Nov 20th 2011
edited by SamMax
Could somebody change the trope image? Maybe it's just me, but I don't feel that either the image or the caption describes it very well. Sure, you might think that since he's a historical figure, everyone on the entire planet Earth might know him, but that's not the case. Think of those who never even heard of him!
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