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Jordan
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04:49:48 PM Aug 17th 2010
I really don't think Lelouch of Code Geass counts. He's not the best pilot on his own side. Also, he's far from being morally superior to the Japanese characters.

Really, you could easily see the show as having a stance closer to Japanese superiority than the Mighty Whitey trope.
shiro_okami
05:05:45 PM Aug 17th 2010
He's not the best pilot, but he is the best strategist and capable leader, and Episode 25 goes as far as to having the Black Knights fall apart in his absence, eventually ending in their defeat.
Jordan
05:09:16 PM Aug 17th 2010
edited by Jordan
That's true, but one of the typical tropes associated with Mighty Whitey is that they are "better at being that culture" than the people from that culture themselves- Lelouch isn't like that at all.

Also, I don't know this for certain, but I wonder if the Caucasian Asian trope means that the Japanese audience would pretty much look at Lelouch as like them rather than as a European person.
fanboymaster
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12:22:22 PM Oct 19th 2010
  • In "RedDeadRedemption" the Mexican rebels and the Mexican army are in a stalemate until John Marston (white guy) comes along and tips the balance

Went ahead and chopped that out. This trope is about a character from one culture coming in and being automatically better than another culture at something he really shouldn't be. Marston is a gunslinger, and while his contributions are unrealistic this applies to every fight a player gets in during the game.
WeirdRaptor
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04:35:19 PM Jan 13th 2011
Alright, we seriously need to start limiting the use of this trope. I understand what it's about, but it seems nowadays any film or whatever that features an especially talented White person gets the "Mighty Whitey" label.
Zatoichi88
07:25:33 AM Jan 21st 2011
not Leonardo Dicap... I he's good in his own right. I do wish him and Denzel Washington to a movie together.
69.170.217.52
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09:17:53 AM Feb 21st 2011
Real Life Example of Gonzalo Guerrero?
Zatoichi2011
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01:01:00 AM Feb 26th 2011
I'm surprised that Ian from tower prep is not there.
Dragonmouth
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12:44:38 AM Nov 18th 2011
Could someone clarify what is meant by "Original Version" and "Modern Version"?
Madcapunlimited
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09:48:39 AM Nov 26th 2011
I have a few doubts about a number of examples of this trope. It seems like this trope really is "White person goes to another culture... doesn't COMPLETELY suck at it" and then the fandom elevates them to seeming "superior" even if the original work does not imply it.

In a lot of these works (Dances with Wolves, Last Samurai) it seems people who'd jump to a "Mighty Whitey" conclusion are themselves completely missing the point. Costner or Cruise is the protagonist, and thus important to the narrative, but both are far from the best. Pretty well corresponds to Banderas in the 13th Warrior (but yet that's not "Mighty Arab" or something)- where he's competent AND the protagonist, but is never presented as SUPERIOR. These characters often need some kind of defining "well this is what *I* do well" component to offset their fish out of water status...

just seems people make more of the racial aspect of this trope than there really is.
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