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Amonimus the Retromancer (Sergeant)
the Retromancer
Sep 15th 2021 at 11:44:43 AM •••

Is there a clean-up thread for this? The note says "do not add this page to a work's trope list. No matter how famous the LPer behind it, the fact that a game has had a Let's Play of it is Not a Trope.", but there are tons wicks that contain "X did an episode on this".

Edited by Amonimus TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Draggon753 Since: Jun, 2019
Hedgemaster BRD-Senpai Since: Jan, 2017
BRD-Senpai
Apr 20th 2020 at 8:51:10 AM •••

You think maybe we should make a page about M80Marc? He plays a lot of shoddily-made Sonic.exe fangames, but there are some good ones out there that he plays, and he sometimes plays other games too.

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kawaiineko333 Since: Nov, 2010
Sep 15th 2014 at 10:04:20 PM •••

I know the mods won't see it, but someone needs to do a page for Sylphid. He's done full and complete L Ps for the Atelier series starting with the Arland trilogy, Atelier Ayesha as well as Record of Agarest War 2. Currently, he's working on Assassin's Creed Revelations.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Sep 16th 2014 at 2:27:00 AM •••

Well, if someone comes across and knows the work well enough to make a page, they can do so.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Polisi25 Since: Feb, 2014
Aug 3rd 2014 at 6:58:55 AM •••

How about Quill 18? I think that he's good enough to has his own page.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Aug 3rd 2014 at 9:36:23 AM •••

Well, if you want to start a page, feel free to do so at LetsPlay.Quill 18. Make sure that you apply How to Create a Work's Page.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Aug 11th 2013 at 9:58:53 AM •••

Recommendations have been removed per TRS, and the page's been unlocked.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
magictoaster Since: Oct, 2011
Mar 26th 2013 at 6:28:46 AM •••

The Fate Stay Night Let's Play has been put in the archives.

kawaiineko333 Since: Nov, 2010
Dec 31st 2012 at 11:33:13 AM •••

I'm wondering why it is Bobbin Threadbare hasn't gotten his own entry in this section. He's done extensive L Ps of the Quest For Glory series, the Thief series and his most recent ones have been for Academagia and Alpha Protocol.

maniacykt Since: Aug, 2012
Dec 11th 2012 at 8:30:24 AM •••

Arguably THE first "Let's Play"(as we know it today) was done by Russian writer Vladimir Vasilyev in 2001 in form of the book "UFO: Enemy Unknown". (And yep, it's copyright infringement of X-COM series at it's best) With every "Let's Play" aspect including: the walk-through, comments about occurring events, etc, etc. Basically it's a regular Let's Play but only in text form.

MarioGalaxy2433g5 Since: Aug, 2011
Sep 17th 2012 at 4:07:20 PM •••

Let's Play isn't a trope. Yet, I see it in several game pages, where really, it should be in the trivia section at most.

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DonaldthePotholer Since: Dec, 2009
Oct 15th 2012 at 8:03:08 PM •••

It's actually more of a (derivative) Genre in and of itself, like MST.

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Harrypadar Rule Breaker Since: Sep, 2012
Rule Breaker
Sep 16th 2012 at 6:40:27 PM •••

Who else thinks that Madamewario needs to have her own page?

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Dec 13th 2011 at 7:19:55 AM •••

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For why this article was locked, see Locked Pages. Nonproductive conversation in this discussion page will be removed.

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Mewseeker Since: Dec, 2009
Aug 20th 2011 at 7:42:50 PM •••

I was thinking of adding some Let's play from Nico Nico Douga but I'm not sure where I should put them or even if a new section should be done for Nico Nico Douga as they have quite a lot of Let's Play there. Yes, I know that they are mostly in Japanese but that's what make them interesting, especially when stuff like No Export for You, Bad Export for You, Difficulty by Region and Bowdlerise are in full effect.

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Kan Since: May, 2011
Jun 5th 2011 at 4:02:10 PM •••

Since this page is still a mess, if nobody has any objections I'm going to try and make at least the first folder somewhat organized. I was thinking of listing them alphabetically by game (y'know, like it says on the page itself) with the name first, since sorting by L Per makes it difficult to quickly find a game you're looking for. I'm not entirely sure what to do with L Pers with multiple L Ps though, seems silly to scatter them if somebody likes that person's particular style. Was thinking of something like "Other Let's Plays by <Let's Player>: <list of that person's L Ps listed on the page>" as a note in small letters under the game in question, and then have the actual Let's Plays of those games and their detailed descriptions where they belong.

I think the page has also been bloated by all the separate comments describing a single aspect of each LP, but since I obviously haven't read through every single one, I can't know which ones are relevant and which aren't. We'll see.

Either way, it's quite a bit of work, so any good ideas are welcome (maybe more/different kind of folders or somesuch).

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Kan Since: May, 2011
Jun 6th 2011 at 5:56:51 AM •••

Worked my way from A to E so far, looks a lot better even if I say so myself. Sorted alphabetically by game, name first in bold letters, followed by the description/comment and the link(s) to the LP(s) in question within. If a Let's Player has multiple L Ps, I've added the other ones as a smaller note in an "Also from x:" -form under everything else, either as a list or a link to the LP Archive (since that's the folder I'm working on) in some cases.

I just might regret this.

74.79.105.66 Since: Dec, 1969
Apr 26th 2011 at 12:13:55 AM •••

How does bikdiponabus not have his own page? I'm not really an editor, much less a page-maker, but...seriously, someone get on that! For that matter, Brynnagiadrosich(Bikdip's Girlfriend/co-L Per) should be on here too!

somestrangeflea Since: Dec, 1969
Feb 6th 2011 at 5:17:41 AM •••

Does "No Such Thing as Notability" apply to Shameless Self Promotion?

Because if it doesn't, there's a whole pile of pages at the bottom that really shouldn't be there.

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LegendaryAndy Since: Feb, 2011
Feb 24th 2011 at 11:18:18 AM •••

It doesn't apply, but all of the pages are put together by the fans, not the L Per in question.

KingClark Since: Nov, 2009
Dec 17th 2010 at 9:20:05 PM •••

Is it time to make a Let's Play Index? There are already pages for Sonic2006 and Sonic 2 Special Edition, and there are likely other pages, so it would be more convenient if they were compiled.

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Wolfman2000 Since: Jan, 2001
Dec 17th 2010 at 9:47:31 PM •••

How would it be indexed by? There's already a good chance that any video game has been LPed, and not all LPers have trope/work pages yet.

Ninja_Orca Since: May, 2009
Dec 17th 2010 at 11:06:51 PM •••

And how do you describe an LP? If we're talking a Raocow LP then it's a bit easier because his style is so distinctive. But if we're talking a normal LP then it probably just warrants a mention on the game's original page, because the LP may not stand on its own as a work very well.

AshleyPomeroy Ashley Pomeroy Since: Aug, 2009
Ashley Pomeroy
Oct 30th 2010 at 7:41:12 AM •••

At this point in time the page has become simply a list of dozens of Let's Play examples, with no way to tell which are any good or not. Beyond the first fifth of the page they degenerate into "NAME and his girlfriend NAME 2 have a number of funny L Ps, including GAME X and GAME Y. Check them out!", with no attempt to link to the rest of TV Tropes. I suggest removing the page entirely and replacing it with a link to The Terrible Secret of Animal Crossing; this appears to be the only example worth saving.

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AshleyPomeroy Since: Aug, 2009
Oct 30th 2010 at 7:43:25 AM •••

In fact, about half-way through the page the examples turn into little adverts for the people making the walkthroughs, rather than the walkthroughs themselves.

Ninja_Orca Since: May, 2009
Dec 8th 2010 at 7:33:36 PM •••

If it links to the LP archive it's generally legit. But I agree with you about everything else.

71.108.113.226 Since: Dec, 1969
Oct 20th 2010 at 10:14:06 PM •••

What is the term for a video game playthrough that contains neither audio commentary nor subtitles? Examples are DerfsonicGaming (formerly known as Derf Sonic) and Blitzmage.

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70.142.50.36 Since: Dec, 1969
Aug 8th 2010 at 4:34:25 PM •••

What's the point of this page? It's not a trope. If this site called "Something Awful" has fans making a wiki article about their favorite site, can I make an article about mine? (it's mainstream to me!)

> due to the Something Awful forums

I'd call Older than You Think on that too. I'm sure they didn't popularize gameplay videos.

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Marioguy128 Since: Jan, 2010
Aug 18th 2010 at 4:56:17 PM •••

We have plenty of pages that aren't tropes. Gameplay videos? It was originally talking about screenshot let's plays then video let's plays arose.

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OrochiPente Since: Dec, 1969
Aug 17th 2010 at 4:59:33 PM •••

You know, has anyone ever heard of Draygone's Let's Plays of games made with RPG Maker 1-3? http://www.pavilionboards.com/forum/showthread.php?s=14ac94c05c0c60092809c3683347e790&t=23880 He has some great work, albeit not on the Something Awful Forums, rather a very obscure forum that I'm part of, the RPG Maker Pavilion.

Wolfman2000 Since: Jan, 2001
Jun 13th 2010 at 7:07:50 AM •••

I'm trying to understand the order of the Let's Plays on the page...and I don't think there is one. Perhaps each section should be alphabetized by game or player? It may make adding future examples easier in the long run.

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SomeGuy Since: Jan, 2001
Jun 13th 2010 at 7:05:49 PM •••

It probably would behoove the page, yes. Do it by game order if you are so inclined, as that would make far more sense with a folder-controlled page than L Per order.

See you in the discussion pages.
Marioguy128 Since: Jan, 2010
Jun 18th 2010 at 4:10:54 PM •••

I think we should organize this alphabetically By the Let's Player. Some of the recommendations have more than one game and it painful to reorganize those if we're doing it by game instead of the person or people.

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Wolfman2000 Since: Jan, 2001
Jun 18th 2010 at 4:27:59 PM •••

I suggest we agree on the order before the rest get handled. What do the rest of you think?

Marioguy128 Geomancer Since: Jan, 2010
Geomancer
May 3rd 2010 at 6:33:43 PM •••

I think some of these examples need to be removed as they're not that great. Or put a your milage may vary somewhere in the intro.

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SweetMadness Since: Dec, 2009
May 5th 2010 at 10:47:54 AM •••

YMMV is now in the intro. I don't like all the L Ps listed on the page either, but that's my subjective opinion, and I don't think that an individual troper should have the final say on whether they're "great" enough to be listed here or not. No Such Thing As Notability and all that.

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DesignatedNPC Since: May, 2015
Jun 2nd 2010 at 2:47:00 PM •••

What about adding your own LPs as 'examples'? TINSTAN, but adding yourself to a page that is, for all intents and purposes, a rec page is a little... Yeah.

Marioguy128 Since: Jan, 2010
Jun 17th 2010 at 5:12:19 PM •••

Why don't add a rule against that?

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gyrobot Since: Jan, 2001
Jun 14th 2010 at 12:58:03 AM •••

Why can't we have a so bad it's horrible section admin? So are genuinely bad. Unless we can Darth Wiki it of course

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FastEddie MOD Since: Apr, 2004
Jun 14th 2010 at 3:05:34 AM •••

Right. Put it in DarthWiki.Ptitle8zx0nomxzqc5

Edited by FastEddie Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
Marioguy128 Geomancer Since: Jan, 2010
Geomancer
Jun 11th 2010 at 10:09:35 AM •••

Why are the Freelance Astronauts being moved to the So Bad, It's Good / So Bad Its Horrible section? There are other tropers who disagree and anyone who moves them back to the proper section are automatically accused of vandalism despite there being edit reasons that detail the move to the proper section.

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Charlie72 Since: Jul, 2009
Jun 13th 2010 at 12:56:29 AM •••

If he does it one more time, I'm calling troll.

190.50.180.175 Since: Dec, 1969
Jun 13th 2010 at 8:42:02 AM •••

Now he decided to just move them to the bottom of the page for no reason.

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Marioguy128 Since: Jan, 2010
Jun 13th 2010 at 5:29:47 PM •••

Which doesn't make sense since they're from Something Awful. I'm moving them back, and they better stay there this time.

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94.9.139.139 Since: Dec, 1969
Jun 13th 2010 at 5:37:14 PM •••

Ferr has guest hosted Retsupurae at least once as well.

AndyWaltfeld the Desert Troper Since: Dec, 1969
the Desert Troper
Mar 27th 2010 at 2:09:33 PM •••

Apparent Edit War in the works over the Chorocojo Pokemon Platinum LP link. On the one hand, I think it's a fair cop to link to ongoing LPs on SA, but on the other hand, it's Fast Eddie himself dropping the hammer on it.

As someone who plunked down the "tenbux" almost solely to get my LP fix on, I can't exactly see how "it's a valid link, but it counts as broken if Tropers can't access the content within" is proper protocol and/or logic. LPs spend about four weeks on free view, one week off, if my last count before registering is correct, and I think we can keep the link as is (along with several others still going to the SA copies rather than LP Archive copies) if we put a disclaimer about this next to the core SA Let's Play forum link or something. Thoughts?

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FastEddie MOD Since: Apr, 2004
Mar 27th 2010 at 2:23:03 PM •••

Our audience is the entire Web, not just the SA folks. In fact, the SA folks probably already have links to whatever interests them at SA. If the other links are also broken, they should be zapped, too.

Edited by FastEddie Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
somestrangeflea Since: Dec, 1969
Mar 28th 2010 at 8:09:21 AM •••

Alright. All the links to SA threads are removed. If someone really misses something I've removed, they can re-add it.

88.107.129.120 Since: Dec, 1969
Mar 30th 2010 at 1:01:11 PM •••

Shouldn't we link to the LP archive of it though?

somestrangeflea Since: Dec, 1969
Apr 3rd 2010 at 5:19:37 AM •••

If the link was an SA thread, odds are it's an ongoing LP which hasn't been archived yet. I haven't actually checked, but I imagine it'll be a little while before archive links show up.

Rogue7 Since: Jan, 2001
Apr 11th 2010 at 1:34:50 AM •••

I don't understand the logic behind this decision. The majority of the time, Let's Plays are freely available to the general public (I don't have a Something Awful account, and I follow several religiously). SA has a BS, in my opinion, policy, of denying access to encourage people to pay the ten bucks on occasion. That doesn't change the fact that the majority of the time, the links are good and useful. What's the problem here?

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The_Void Since: Jan, 2001
Apr 21st 2010 at 2:27:53 AM •••

I agree with Rogue7. I don't have an SA account, but I could access the Platinum LP thread during the last few days. Couldn't today though for some reason.

OxydisedMoron Since: Nov, 2009
Mar 29th 2010 at 4:48:25 AM •••

Should we make a new section for Penny Arcade forum L Pers? There seems to be quite a few of them, but some might consider it not enough.

Also perhaps we should move all the Youtube only L Pers to its own section too. Just to make it more organised.

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FastEddie MOD Since: Apr, 2004
Mar 29th 2010 at 9:37:21 AM •••

Sounds like a good idea. Go for it.

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somestrangeflea Since: Dec, 1969
Mar 29th 2010 at 2:09:17 PM •••

I would be one of those people who wouldn't consider it enough. I'm also the same guy that removed the Codex Playground link, for the same reason. I realise TINSTAN, but that list could go for miiiiiiles, and it's not even that actual focus of the page.

I'm a supporter of splitting YT only L Pers into their own section, but given that there's so many of them on the page that the actual outcome won't look all that different anyway.

Edit: Yeah, the only real effect that would be is renaming "other examples" to "You Tube L Pers", and moving a few names into a new "Other Examples" section.

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