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ilniaj
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08:21:46 PM Aug 17th 2013
edited by 199.216.46.203
I thought the term "Knight in Shining Armor" was derogatory and used to refer to the new guy who hasn't seen a battle yet.
Larkmarn
09:04:00 PM Aug 17th 2013
... where'd you get that idea from?
ilniaj
08:49:06 AM Nov 14th 2013
It was actually the definition of the term used back when Knights still existed. When the Romanticists put on their Nostalgia Filter they forgot about the shitty quality of that period and instead saw dashing knights in shining armor. So I guess because of them the term "Knight in Shining Armor" has become positive. Maybe I should make the article mention what the term used to mean.
ccoa
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10:15:39 AM Apr 23rd 2012
This is the description from Saint Chevalier. It was removed and examples merged back into this trope for being a poor split that was confusing people and done unilaterally. If there's anything in here that you feel will improve the description, feel free to use it:

A Knight is sworn to Valor.
His Heart knows only Virtue.
His Blade Defends the Helpless.
His Strength Upholds the Weak.
His Word speaks only Truth.
His Wrath Undoes the Wicked!
— "The Old Code", Dragonheart

Chivalry isn't dead. It lives in the White Knight. It lives in how he will go from smiting the Big Bad to helping those in need at any cost. In the stories of old he had found opportunities to be a Knight in Shining Armor at least once while being a Knight Errant but now he might be champion of the king or queen. He might be finished smiting the local evil but instead of up and leaving, he'll accept his reward and stay among the people he saved. Many qualities apply to the white knight like, Self-control, purity, integrity, Honor, goodness... Historically, knights weren't necessarily like this. It's best to describe it as an ideal to which most knights aspired, at least publicly. Back then the code stressed loyalty to the knight's country.

Chivalry lives in how he will practice Courtly Love. He will be his lady's champion and Celibate Hero. If he has a choice, then his attitude will be I Want My Beloved to Be Happy. If he is her bodyguard that will be a good way for him to find himself in a position of temptation. But rescue her he will or deliver her from false accusations. The white knight may be used in more cynical works to indicate a Wide-Eyed Idealist or be invoked to describe a man who loves a woman unconditionally.

He will probably try to avoid doing battle if he can but if he has to do battle then you can it's guaranteed to be honorable combat and he'll even get the girl if she comes to him. Yes this is where the idea of White Knighting came from.

Contrast Knight in Sour Armor for what happens when the world fails to live up to his standards, but he keeps on being good anyway, Lord Error-Prone for a common subversion/parody as well as Black Knight and Failure Knight. Compare the Japanese Samurai and the feminine Lady of War. The holy crusader The Paladin and over zealous Knight Templar are when his goodness is taken a step further. A knight who is white for one person in particular is The Champion. Especially compare Ideal Hero and Officer and a Gentleman.
ccoa
10:45:04 AM Apr 23rd 2012
And this one was from Prince On A White Horse, merged back in for the same reasons:

There are two types of princely saviors. In the first he will exhibit the overconfident behavior of the Prince Charming Wannabe who just shows up and expects to win the maiden over. He might have even been completely charming before then. On the other hand, he might actually Save the Princess, rescue the Damsel in Distress and sweep fair maidens off their feet. In that case he will live Happily Ever After with his princess. She does have a way of making the Wise Prince act foolish or the Rebel Prince become wise. He (or occasionally she) is usually of royal birth but the concept is taken from the mythological symbol of a white horse bearing the hero- or god-figure in ceremonial roles or in triumph over negative forces.

As the prince on a white horse is a knightly prince, displaying the behavior of a heroic Knight in Shining Armor, he can be compared to the Warrior Prince commander.

Classically he would exhibit Horseback Heroism where he's coming to her rescue on a real White Stallion.
Camacan
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11:24:54 PM Sep 12th 2011
edited by Camacan

If this isn't an example we don't want to list it. If it is, we need details.
Camacan
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11:24:21 PM Sep 12th 2011
Examples need specific details. Please see How to Write an Example before returning these to the article.

seekquaze11
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06:12:35 PM Jul 26th 2011
Can someone please clarify for me what is the difference between "Knight in Shining Armor" and "Saint Chevalier?" I'm failing to see a difference.
LordGro
04:33:04 PM Oct 6th 2011
Me too. I made my points on the "Saint Chevalier" discussion.
atheywa
12:37:13 PM Jan 2nd 2012
Did this clarify the difference? "Knight" generally refers to one of two kinds. One is a woman's dream man who will fight in her honor to win his lady's affection and sweep her off her feet like the warrior armed with sword, shield, and plate armor. The other is courteous, noble, and lives by a code of chivalry like the nobleman armed with his principals. He's the good or saintly (White) chevalier (French word for Knight). The Knight in Shining Armor page used to be mixing together chivalrous-to-the-point-of-chastity with woos-ladies-through-love-and-heroism.
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