04:21:13 AM Apr 25th 2017
- The whole plot of Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (or "Sorcerer's Stone" as it's called in the USA) wouldn't have happened if Dumbledore had just destroyed the stone in the first place like he did at the end. In this case, there was a good reason not to destroy it sooner. It was needed to produce an immortality elixir that its creator, Nicholas Flamel, relied upon to survive. However, after seeing how close Voldemort came to obtaining the stone, Flamel finally agreed to let himself succumb to old age rather than risk letting the stone fall into the wrong hands.
- Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire has the oddest one. Harry gets listed as the fourth competitor in a tournament that has "three wizards" right in its name, wasn't open to students his age, and only allows one student per school (Cedric was already chosen for Hogwarts). Despite being aware of how suspicious this is and how many rules it breaks, the teachers decide to let him compete, because the whims of the Goblet of Fire are the only thing they can agree on. In addition to sabotaging the plot of the book, not letting Harry participate would have delayed or prevented Voldemort's resurrection, and saved Cedric's life. Even if the Goblet really was as magically binding as they claimed it was, he could have just agreed with the other teachers to knowingly violate another rule to get disqualified or even if failing that just say "Cedric is the true representative of Hogwarts so I'm just going to sit on the starting line for each event." There's hardly any shame in doing so since his very presence is basically cheating for the Hogwarts side.
01:55:38 AM Jan 20th 2017
Someone should clean-up a little the Buffy example, it become a Headscratcher discussion (as normally happens with Buffy's examples in TV Tropes by-the-way)
02:28:14 AM Aug 10th 2016
Putting here to avoid Edit War
- A villainous example occurs in the second to last episode of the first season of Sword Art Online, The Gilded Hero. In that episode, Sugou/Oberon spams his Game Master status by pinning Kirito onto the ground with gravity magic, and then chains up Asuna, and as Kirito tries to get up, he kicks him back onto the ground and impales him with Kirito's own sword, and then decides to change the pain absorber, which once it drops bellow level 3, starts affecting a user's body in the real world. Given that he's in full control of the situation and knows how it works, he could've just turned it off all the way to level 0 for Kirito, basically, to ensuring Kirito will die in both the digital and real worlds, effectively, washing Kirito out of Sugou/Oberon's hair for good. Sugou/Oberon could get away with raping Asuna in front of Kirito, and since Kirito was stabbed in the back, and through his spine, a critical area, couple that with seeing Asuna in pain while being raped, and Kirito dies not only in-game, but also in real life. If that happened, Sugou would've been able to avoid criminal charges since he plans to wipe Asuna's memory of this incident and of her knowing Kirito anyway, and he could get away with forcing her into marrying him, and thus continue experimenting on the other 299 former SAO players with no one to stop him and be in control of the human soul. Instead, being a cocky dastard, he decides to change it to level 8, insisting on gradually decreasing it after he's done assaulting Asuna. Because Kirito isn't completely dead, he gets help from Kayaba's spirit and is lent his system administrator status to take away Sugou's control of the system, including the pain absorber, to which Kirito sets it to level 0 for Oberon, resulting in Sugou suffering some pretty bad phantom injuries in real life, and losing vision in his right eye, and eventually, being arrested in the real world.
09:18:02 PM Sep 5th 2016
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Even if Sugou/Oberon was in full control of the situation, and even if he had no way of forseeing Kayaba's intervention, it was how he used his full control of the situation that was the issue. I mean, if I was him, just to be 100% sure that I would not have to deal with Kirito EVER again, digital or IRL, I would've just turned off the absorber immediately and let the pain and stress be what does him in.
11:53:09 AM Sep 14th 2016
What you would've done in his place does not nessecarily make it this trope. Give me one reason known to Sugou why he shouldn't take his time.
01:20:04 PM Sep 24th 2016
A reason why Sugou should've just gone ahead and turn off the absorber all the way to 0 (or at least bellow level 3) would be so that it would insure that Kirito would be completely dead in both the digital and real worlds, so that he would never have to contend with him ever again.
02:11:58 PM Sep 30th 2016
That doesn't answer my question. I didn't ask why would he turn of the absorber. I asked why he should have been quick about it.
04:34:56 PM Oct 19th 2016
Remember, before Oberon changed the absorber after stabbing Kirito, that Kiritio DID try to get up. Since he tried to get up, Oberon should've just turned off the absorber, so that Kirito can die painfully as he gets more pain from watching Asuna in pain as she is sexually assaulted by Oberon.
03:25:45 PM Oct 23rd 2016
Except keyword here is "try". Oberon had no reason to believe he'd be any more successful in the next few minutes than he was now, meaning no success at all. And certainly he didn't expect that Kirito will be able to get up instantly. And most importantly he couldn't have seen comimng that Kirito will get help from Kayaba Ex Machina and Oberon himself will be stripped from GM rights, which would still be able to save his skin in case of any of the above happened.
03:38:12 PM Jan 20th 2016
- In Arrow, the police can just charge Oliver with the crimes he's committed because he was caught on CCTV knowing exactly where to find his vigilante gear (and no doubt placing it there earlier). But they let him go because the investigator had a personal grudge against him, because apparently there wasn't a second investigator to look over the very definitive evidence, and because a hooded archer showed up when Oliver was under house arrest, which only proves he has an accomplice when you consider the footage they already have.
03:01:35 PM Jul 20th 2015
In Episode III, Yoda loses to Palpatine and escapes. He doesn't even think to try again this time teaming up with Obi-Wan to take on the emperor. If they did, they could've ended the story here and now, rather than just have complete faith that Luke and Leia will be the new hope and wait 19-20 years. While it does work out in the end, what if it didn't? The Empire would've continued ruling the galaxy forever! I cannot comprehend the amount of holes in this example. Should it be deleted?
05:28:15 AM Jul 21st 2015
I remember having this discussion with someone about a What An Idiot entry saying the same thing. ... basically, Yoda just lost when he was at his most powerful. The Emperor has since gotten even stronger. There is no way that "just going back and trying again" is anything but suicide.
08:43:13 PM Nov 5th 2014
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I removed the example of killing Damon in The Vampire Diaries. Why? One, because it would have been very hard at that point, since Bonnie hadn't really come into her powers yet and Stefan was much weaker due to not drinking human blood. Two, getting rid of Damon wouldn't have gotten rid of Anna, the vampires inside the tomb, Katherine, Isobel, John Gilbert, the Originals, you get the idea. Remember that a huge amount of the conflict comes from Elena's very existence as a doppelganger. So no, killing Damon is neither a simple solution nor one that would make things much better.
08:55:02 AM Mar 16th 2014
This trope is usually called "Kill Gilligan," not "Just Eat Gilligan." It refers to inexperienced writers who, if assigned to write an episode of "Gilligan's Island," would kill off Gilligan in an attempt to make it unique and interesting, not realizing the much bigger point that you have to stay within the confines of the Word of God; you don't change the established parameters of the show's story and characters.
09:32:53 AM Feb 5th 2012
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04:13:01 PM Aug 6th 2011
Shouldn't it be "Just eat, Gilliagn"? With a comma? "Just eat Gilligan" sounds like your telling somebody to eat Gilligan