I third this. A new name would be good for the trope. I think we should at least think of potential new names.
I agree that this trope needs renaming in light of the many revelations about how shitty Wheldon has been.
I'm here to kick arse and drink cups of tea, and I'm all out of arse- waitPer TRS, this is now a Definition Only Page:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16161422180A67167800&page=4#comment-85
Edited by SeptimusHeap You can't always get what you want. Hide / Show Replies[Edited that post, as it was saying "not" rather than "now"]
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanLinking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Rename:, started by jojabar on Dec 7th 2010 at 3:16:59 AM
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanThe *Force Awakens* section needs to be updated in light of the retcon in *Rise of Skywalker.*
How is this not a trope? It's a deliberate tool an author uses, and a specific, familiar—well, trope—that sees use in a lot of works.
It's like Shrug of God, Sure, Why Not?, etc.
Hide / Show Replies^It must be in the story in order to be a tool.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanSo then what if it is in the story? Because I just ran across an entry where someone misapplied Adaptation Name Change when the story was actually Jossed—but since we can't use Jossed as a trope, they weren't exactly in the wrong either. So what trope are we supposed to use in that situation?
Edited by EmptybeeDoes this one count under a new heading of 'Art'? In the Scottish National Museum of Modern Art a display on M. C. Escher included a copy of a newspaper that proclaimed that he was 'anticipating the concerns of computer art' and that there is a 'close parallel of his vision to the thene of contemporary psychedelic art'. In his own copy, the one on display, Escher himself underlined these and wrote question marks next to them in the margin. Perhaps an Implied Trope?
I don't like how it sounds. Can you rename it sunk or poofed?
Hide / Show RepliesI agree. A new trope name would be nice.
People also run straight to WMG pages to post Jossed the moment something is "Jossed", so reading down the WMG, seeing "Jossed" with no explanation over and over again gets grating.
Also people "thoughtfully" put "Jossed" in a spoiler tag so it looks like this:
- Jossed
So yeah, this is a real trope/trivia, but it needs a better name and better usage rules.
"Freedom is not a license for chaos" -Norton Juster's The Dot and the Line: A Romance in Lower MathematicsUh, guys, "Jossed" looks and sounds just fine. It even sounds similar to words with similar meaning: "messed", "tossed", "waxed", "off'ed", etc.
As for the meaning—"fan theory gets shot down" doesn't sound good or work very well. Really, just click on the hypertexted word (or open it in a new tab) and you'll have your definition in five seconds. If every word's definition could be instantly understood just by looking at the word, language wouldn't work.
No, it doesn't. It sounds ridiculous. Not to mention it actually evokes the idea of Joss Whedon, which is terrible in and of itself.
I know I'm kinda late to the discussion, but I didn't even know "Jossed" was named after Joss Whedon. And yes, it does sound like something was "Thrown" or "Tossed."
How is Buffy "notorious" for this enough to make Joss Whedon the Trope Namer if the combined contributions of every author to date on this very page could only come up with one example?
Which episode does the Doctor Who quote come from, and who is Martha refering to? Anyone know?
Hide / Show RepliesThe Master in "The Sound of Drums". It actually cites this in the Doctor Who example.
Edited by OldManHoOh- It was recently Jossed that Aizen has planned out everything Ichigo has done through the series. This includes not just his fights, but also his first meeting with Rukia that allowed him to become a Shinigami. This has upset many shippers who originally used the tagline that their meeting was destiny, and are wildly denying such a declaration. Even though, Aizen could have easily just mixed up paperwork on purpose, he's Aizen after all.
This doesn't quite make sense—can someone clarify? I'm fairly sure Aizen said he had planned everything in Ichigo's life, and Kubo has yet to make a statement that contradicts this in or out-of-universe.
"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - FighteerThe entry about "El Goonish Shive" says: "the picture seen above is a [...]". Where is that picture?
Hide / Show RepliesYeah, where DID that picture go? It was a pretty good picture for this trope!
-Z-: After Nunally came back from being nuked ON CAMERA, I don't believe anyone in that show is dead.
- This Troper managed to mostly avoid this with Warcraft fanfiction, thanks to vague canon regarding some races (specifically harpies) and one very persistent reviewer who kept feeding me World Of Warcraft canon reference pages despite my refusal to play an MMORPG. Otherwise I'd have been up a creek with the suggestion that Orcs were an androgynous warrior race when Bethsoft decided to Retcon in a bunch of porn stars with creature heads as females of the species.
This might be premature, but maybe we should think about renaming the trope in light of what a gigantic creep Whedon is? In addition to the abusive behavior as a showrunner/director, Michelle Trachtenberg seemed to imply that he was pervy to her.
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