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09:26:34 AM Oct 20th 2015
edited by WhoNeedsAMango
I'm genuinely wondering, does Anna at the end of Disney's Frozen fall under this trope? I can't tell if it's a subversion, inversion, or unrelated seeing as it's not being used as a method of "time travel"?
01:04:50 PM Oct 1st 2013
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  • You're hung upside-down in what's effectively a huge thermos flask with your head in a bucket. Why the bucket? Well, if the power fails, the rest of you will defrost but at least the last of the Liquid Nitrogen Dioxide will stay in the bucket with your head, which will remain frozen longest.
  • Unfortunately, one of the side effects to being frozen is the unevenness with which human tissue freezes. Remember that water expands when it freezes? It makes the head, in particular, very fragile and prone to cracking at the slightest knock. The industry term is Meatglass. Part of the reason why you can't simply freeze someone and expect them to survive is because of water. Ice takes up roughly 10% more volume than water. Granted, your flesh is flexible, but ice the expansion of ice is also one of the strongest forces in nature. So really, your cells will explode. Because of this, cryogenic facilities such as Alcor use all manner of cryoprotectants to avoid freezing damage. These are toxic, but presumably fixing that is the least of the problems in reviving a frozen body or brain.
  • Well, science! states that one of the big problems with cryogenic freezing is ice crystals forming in the cells and tearing stuff up. Some sort of natural anti-freeze or, well, blood replacement, is going to be necessary. Which is also why it's illegal to freeze people before death: Because one needs to be completely exsanguinated and their blood replaced that way in order to be "safely" frozen. You can't technically freeze a live person without "murdering" them first (by replacing their blood so they have a hope of revival) even if you don't consider the frozen person to be technically dead.
06:33:17 AM Apr 3rd 2011
Failed Human Popsicle:

No Phlebetonium here :D
06:15:07 PM Jul 18th 2010
Is it worth adding details about stasis fields to the page info? people in those are frozen in time but not literally frozen.
10:04:52 AM Dec 3rd 2010
It's probably fair enough to say the 'Popsicle' bit doesn't need to be literal, but this opens up a ton of Applied Phlebetonium and it's probably best to leave it open-ended.
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