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LiamM32
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09:24:48 PM Feb 26th 2013
I think that "Heterosexual Life Partners" is the wrong title for this trope, as I think it implies that it is a romantic relationship between people of opposite sexes. A more accurate name would be "Non-sexual Life Partners".
BobBensonIsHomunculus
11:16:03 PM Nov 28th 2013
edited by 68.48.207.181
Yeah, I think it would be better to just merge this page with Platonic Life Partners. After all, much of the time one or more of the "Heterosexual Life Partners" are not heterosexual, but simply have a platonic rather than romantic bond with their closest same-gender friend, just like how members of Platonic Life Partners can be attracted to other people of the opposite sex. The point is just that they're close enough to be like a romantic couple, but they're not. That doesn't necessarily have to be something that's separated out by gender.

As for the concerns in the discussion below, combining the pages could just separate it out into "Opposite-Gender Examples" and "Same-Gender Examples." And there could be a paragraph on the different histories the two have, which is all that would really be needed (since that's mostly due to histories of sexism and homophobia, and other than that the tropes aren't that different).
WeAreAllKosh
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12:45:51 AM Jan 12th 2013
edited by WeAreAllKosh
Surprised there isn't a Music subpage for this (I'm not sure how to start subpages myself, else I would)—as there are many bands that have two core members, or two co-songwriters who write most of the songs. Examples would include:

Steely Dan: Walter Becker and Donald Fagen (core members and co-songwriters).

The Rolling Stones: Mick Jagger and Keith Richards (co-songwriters).

Led Zeppelin: Robert Plant and Jimmy Page (co-songwriters).

The Eagles: Don Henley and Glenn Frey (co-songwriters).

The Beatles: John Lennon and Paul Mc Cartney (co-songwriters)—of course that partnership didn't last.

And of course Simon and Garfunkel, Hall and Oates, etc....

Ramalama
09:21:35 AM Feb 20th 2013
While the examples listed would technically be categorized under Music, seeing as they involve Real Life individuals (as opposed to fictional characters), they aren't to be listed on this particular trope.
VesperLynd
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10:03:46 PM May 3rd 2012
Why can't we just merge this with Platonic Life Partners? It's so much more inclusive.
BlueIceTea
02:35:50 AM May 11th 2012
Because they're two very distinct tropes with very different histories. Examples of close same-gender platonic relationships go back to antiquity. Historically, since people liked to believe that everyone was straight, they tended not to raise eyebrows, but they do seem remarkable from a modern perspective where we tend to assume that all close relationships must be romantic/sexual in nature.

Platonic Life Partners is a much less common trope that really only seems to have gotten popular within the last few decades. Historically, there seems to have been a lot of resistance to the idea of a man and a woman being close friends without being romantically involved, and it's only recently that the idea of being close but not sexual with someone of the opposite gender has started to catch on.

Besides, the page for Heterosexual Life-Partners is huge. If we were to merge it with Platonic Life Partners, examples of the latter would be massively outnumbered. It makes for easier navigating to let them have a special page all to themselves.
VesperLynd
12:04:03 AM Jun 1st 2012
This trope assumes that both members are heterosexual; this isn't always the case. This trope merely enforces heteronormativity. In the asexual community, we use the phrase "queerplatonic life partners." Just putting it out there. :P
BlueIceTea
07:24:04 AM Aug 5th 2012
"Queerplatonic" as in "same-sex" plus "platonic"? Might be worth considering, though it's rather a mouthful and probably not readily recognisable outside the asexual community.

When asexuals use it, does it mean a platonic relationship, or a non-sexual romantic relationship? Because if you want to apply the term to non-asexual people, it makes a difference.
maxlane
08:49:44 PM May 15th 2013
nope, the "queer" refers to the queering of relationships, in other words, relationship that are not seen as typical (queer is actually used to refer to someone who is not straight, i think). a queerplatonic relationship is often see as more than a friendship, but not romantic or sexual, and does not only apply to asexuals. so i think you might have a problem with it referring to both same-sex and opposite sex pairs.

these might help in explaining it, http://www.asexuality.org/wiki/index.php?title=Queerplatonic http://jhameia.tumblr.com/post/2868886233/word-of-the-day-queerplatonic http://fyeahqueerplatoniczucchinis.tumblr.com/faq
Shaddypink
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08:49:22 PM Jan 5th 2012
edited by Shaddypink
I think the title is just fine. It doesn't literally mean only heterosexuals of the same sex, and can apply to other sexual orientations, just like how you guys are saying that "Bromance" can apply to girls. Both terms don't SOUND inclusive at face-value, but are used as such. Plus the term "Heterosexual Life Partners" has been used even before this site took notice of it.

Also: "Note that despite the trope name, the characters in question are not necessarily both heterosexual." So they kind of explain it right there.

readman
08:56:44 PM Apr 25th 2012
It is erasure at its finest and totally inaccurate. These types of titles should be precise and leave as little room for "by-the-ways" as possible.

"Bromance", even if in itself not perfectly accurate, is still much more recognizable and encompassing.
ButterKit
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08:31:23 PM Dec 26th 2011
edited by ButterKit
This title is very confusing. I had to read the Platonic Life Partners page before I truely understood this one. It needs a new name, badly.
ChaoticNovelist
10:35:28 AM Apr 14th 2012
Just because you didn't get is no reason to sady 'badly'. You need to demonstrate misuse in a TRS thread to prove that a LOT of people don't get it.
mattematte
01:13:27 PM May 12th 2012
edited by mattematte
It really is extremely convoluted. "Heterosexual"? From the get-go it means that both participants are heterosexual (yes, there is a "clarification", but that is only after an erroneous assumption is made) and then from a gender perspective it also makes it sound as if the characters are always one man and one woman.

It's a very mediocre title.
kittypryde12
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03:14:51 PM Nov 6th 2011
Just putting it out there, maybe it should be called "platonic life partners" since it can be with opposite sexes as well.
ButterKit
08:29:46 PM Dec 26th 2011
edited by ButterKit
"platonic life partners" is it's own trope, actually.
BlacKat
topic
01:19:49 PM Oct 15th 2011
Since Real Life examples were deleted, shouldn't "Pro wrestling" be removed too?
Qube
07:41:03 PM Jan 6th 2012
edited by Qube
Bearing in mind that you've left yourself open for a "wrestling isn't real" snark, you do make a fairly good point.
moi
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06:58:53 AM Oct 11th 2011
edited by moi
The "heterosexual" part is unnecessary, very limiting AND erasing life partners that are bisexual, pansexual, asexual etc. Heck, two people can be gay and actually be platonic best friends with each other. Or one of them can be gay and not see the other romantically.

It screams a very insecure 'no homo!' to me. Bromance would be better.
ButterKit
08:34:53 PM Dec 26th 2011
I agree, with the above point about a note that it can also be between two girls.
Tedofg
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03:53:45 PM Jul 31st 2011
edited by Tedofg
Bromance would be a much better word.
BlueIceTea
04:47:58 AM Oct 11th 2011
Agreed (with a note that it can also apply to females).
BlacKat
01:18:30 PM Oct 15th 2011
I second (third?) this.
Aleksei
04:03:31 PM Dec 26th 2011
As above.
murdere
07:41:30 PM Jan 8th 2012
Signed. The "heterosexual" (or any -sexual) part is unneeded, limiting and misleading.
readman
07:41:36 PM Apr 8th 2012
Absolutely. The current name is both inaccurate and offensive.
66.205.168.11
topic
10:48:48 PM Apr 16th 2011
Ok, how did the two guys from Secondhand Lions not make this list? That was the first pair that came to my mind.
SirBushwhack
topic
06:29:32 AM Mar 2nd 2011
Does the heterosexual part means the partners are of heterosexuality?
ading
02:24:05 AM Mar 8th 2011
Not necessarily.
SirBushwhack
topic
06:29:24 AM Mar 2nd 2011
Does the heterosexual part means the partners are of heterosexuality.
TomSFox
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11:45:59 AM Jan 24th 2011
Shouldn't this be called "Heterosexual Same-Sex Life Partners"?
ading
02:30:41 AM Mar 8th 2011
If we wanted Exactly What It Says on the Tin, we wouldn't need the heterosexual part.
MikeRosoft
topic
04:15:26 AM Dec 29th 2010
Do Ruslana and Varvara count?
FourthDerivative
02:42:48 PM Jan 16th 2012
Quite possibly, but real-life examples aren't allowed on this page.
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