Main HUMONGOUS Mecha Discussion

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12:11:39 PM Oct 28th 2016
edited by the_butcher
In the Fan Works tab, shouldn't we remove the works where Mechas appear in the source material too? I mean, otherwise we would have to add every single Harry Potter fanfiction to Magic Wands...
08:55:25 PM Jul 24th 2015
Could the Baba Yaga's house that walks around on bird legs be considered the fantasy equivalent of a mecha?
10:56:40 PM Jul 24th 2015
Kind of a stretch, I would say.
01:18:44 AM Feb 27th 2013
Not sure whether to add Science Ninja Team Gatchaman to the list. The bad guys used a LOT of mechas of various kinds in the series (pick an animal, especially an creepy one, and it's probably been a mecha), but I'm not sure if it really fits the trope.
01:19:45 AM Dec 4th 2016
edited by Kuruni
If it's big and it's mecha, it fit the trope. Go ahead.

(edit:silly me, replied to three years old thread...)
07:59:46 PM Feb 19th 2012
I'd like to suggest some line-defining as far as mecha, vehicles, and powered armor go.

Mechs are vehicles that use some form of legs as a (typically primary) form of movement.

A mech is different from a robot in that a mech is a vehicle, while a robot is autonomous or indirectly controlled. A walking machine controlled from the outside that does not transport its pilot is not a mech.

A mech is different from a powered armour because a powered armour directly assists your body’s movements, while a mech is controlled indirectly (whether this is through mo-cap, a neurohelmet a-la-Battletech, or pure hand controls).

What do you all think?
01:06:44 PM Oct 8th 2011
edited by ParagonOfEternity
Is it just me, or are there VERY few female main protagonists in the genre as a whole? I know that piloting giant robots is seen as kind of a manly thing, and I know that nearly every series has a secondary or at the very least backup pilot who's a girl, but really. Gunbuster (and Diebuster by extension), Dancougar Nova, Geneshaft, Idolmaster: Xenoglossia, Cosprayers and Sky Girls are the only examples I can think of. Considering that three, MAYBE four of those aren't very well known at all, that Cosprayers is listed in So Bad, It's Horrible, and that this is a genre with hundreds of entries based around it, and it's somewhat surprising.
08:09:28 PM Jun 8th 2011
Incorrect data on the humongus mecha

I would like to point out a problem with the comment about Viewtiful joe homaging Gurren lagen since Joe came out first Gurren Lagan is actually doing the homage to six majin not vice versa like pointed out
10:07:53 AM Dec 13th 2010
05:32:00 PM Apr 13th 2011
Yeah, but this is the Super Trope for that, so it can be included on this page, and it's the Trope Maker for Humongous Mecha anyway.
02:12:57 PM Apr 1st 2010
Took a scalpel to the article removing some natter in the Star Wars and film section

  • To be fair, modern tanks also rely on close infantry support when working in close environments to stop enemy infantry doing unpleasant things to them up close, and lets be honest the effectiveness of the Bambootechnology against even the Stormtroopers was fairly surprising and perhaps slightly over-stated, never mind the Scout Walkers. We saw heavily armed elite troops with full armour and helmets being knocked unconscious with a single hit from a small hand held rock by a teddy bear, so reality is already in the backseat. The situation should have been closer to Zulu, but that might have given the film a higher certificate. As for Empire, if you think about the amount of power it would take to move that thing, is it really likely that a little bit of steel cable (that is only secured at one end), could cause it to topple? Given that the Snow Speeders seem to be custom designed to do this (what else are you going to use that magentic harpoon and cable for?) it must have been tried before. But even if the empire didn't fit it with cable cutters on the legs (e.g. as many modern helicopters have), it moves so slowly that it shouldn't have over-balanced anyway, its not like it has much momentum built up. The driver should have just put the leg forward, realised the problem and brought it back again, while the weight was taken with the other three legs. Or maybe even take a wild guess as to why the speeder is madly circling him so close and just stop? They could then send out some infantry to cut the cable while the walker provides covering fire. Think about if you tried this trick on a walking elephant, do you think it would fall over on its face or just stop? Of course, as with all things in Star Wars, large dollops of the Rule of Cool may have influenced the outcomes.
    • Considering that the only ways to take down an AT-AT are either tying up the legs or hitting it with a really powerful blast (and unorthodox methods like Luke used), it's not as big of a weakness as it seems. For all intents and purposes, the Imperial walker was nigh unstoppable. The AT-S Ts were often also deployed to guard the AT-AT's flanks during a battle, as the agile little walkers could target enemies the big walkers couldn't see or attack (the reason why there was only one AT-ST visible at the Battle of Hoth is that the Imperials lost some of their troops before the battle even started because of the nature of Hoth itself).

From Robot Jox. Robot Jox came out in 1990, while G Gundam came out in 1994. Remember, anime didn't invent every trope
06:15:55 PM Apr 2nd 2010
I also decided to

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  • The Star Wars AT-ST's (chickenwalkers) and the AT-AT's are among the most visually distinctive mecha in popular culture. The ease with which the various Imperial Walkers are defeated demonstrates the impracticality of the whole concept. Rebel fighters literally trip up the AT-AT's, and a band of teddy-bear like people set up Bamboo Technology traps in a forest to obliterate a group of AT-ST's. Darth Vader should remote-strangle the whole R&D team. There's a reason why real-life tanks are built with as low a profile and as low a center of gravity as possible.
    • Only 2 of the walkers were claimed by the traps (the catapult, gliders and tripwire proved ineffective), and even those were highly situational, and a result of the fact that the Empire did not believe the ewoks would be capable of 'any' real response. As for them being ill-suited for combat, they're scouts (All-Terrain Scout Transport), not tanks, which means that a high profile is actually preferred, especially in forest terrain, where it allows a wider view than from a comparable sized tracked or wheeled vehicle.
  • The Star Wars AT-ST's and the AT-AT's are among the most visually distinctive mecha in popular culture.
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  • The same line also features a Transforming DEATH STAR.
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  • The AT-TE seen in Attack of the Clones, despite being "older" technology, has a much more sensible beetle-like design, with six legs and a low profile for stability. It also has weapons that point in more than one direction at a time, the lack of which is probably the AT-AT's most glaring flaw.
    • But it wasn't very intimidating. The AT-AT was designed, like most Imperial weapons, to frighten and demoralize the enemy and make them surrender without a fight. "Rule through the fear of force, rather than the force itself."
  • The AT-TE seen in Attack of the Clones, despite being "older" technology, has a much more sensible beetle-like design, with six legs and a low profile for stability.

Mainly because it ruined the flow of the article. Talk about impracticality and such should be at the top of the page
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