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122.54.153.209
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05:25:15 PM Apr 27th 2010
is there any possibility that a a lesbian can turn into a real boy?how?

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122.54.153.209
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05:25:35 PM Apr 27th 2010
is there any possibility that a a lesbian can turn into a real boy?how?
KiTA
08:32:27 PM Apr 27th 2010
edited by KiTA
Like, in real life? Not without surgery, hormone therapy, and years of work. Even then, it's not a perfect change. That Other Wiki has more information here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender

Now, in fiction? Of course.

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suedenim
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05:26:13 PM Oct 16th 2010
Just wondering, is anyone really attached to the current trope quote? It Just Bugs Me every time I go to the page, as the song lyrics aren't actually about Gender Bender, or even (probably?) Crossdressing, just general androgyny or something.
SomeGuy
07:53:08 AM Nov 4th 2010
Even if it's not technically accurate it sounds like it's referring to the trope, so it's good to stay.

That being written, if you can find a better quote that both demonstrates the trope and is technically accurate, by all means replace it.

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suedenim
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06:24:13 AM Nov 4th 2010
The popularity of these series, as well as ones dealing with more realistic transgender issues, among a predominantly non-transgendered fanbase has been a widely commented on phenomenon.

Can anyone point me to such commentary? If there are prevalent theories about it, they'd be good to mention.

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TwinBird
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11:53:37 PM May 31st 2011

I'm not going to delete this, but from what I know of Zatanna, she'd be able to reverse such a spell easily, and no web source on Mikey Dowling says anything like this, so I think I'm going to call "citation needed."
suedenim
07:23:21 AM Jun 30th 2011
This "problem" is actually addressed (though admittedly there's still a bit of "reading between the lines" required. It seems that Mikey's "curse" also makes her immune to magic. That's a major plot point in the storyline with the puppet guy - he tries to use magic on her, and it backfires, letting the good guys win.

Looks like Mikey's full backstory will be unresolved for a long time, unfortunately, as the big DC relaunch doesn't include Zatanna, and #13 was Dini's last issue.
suedenim
07:25:12 AM Jun 30th 2011
Oh, and #13's "flashback dream sequence" is pretty explicit that she used to be a guy. The only other explanation would be that, for some reason, "dream logic" has her appearing as a guy, but that would be pretty random.

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MarqFJA
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01:05:49 PM Jun 22nd 2011
Out of curiosity, what is the rationale behind restricting the term "gender bender" to only actual genderswapping? I ask this because from a recent google search of the words, it appears to also apply to normal crossdressing, too.
suedenim
07:13:33 AM Jun 30th 2011
Dunno, it's just the way the trope was named and defined back in the misty days of yore.

Unfortunately, a lot of the tropes in this area are used confusingly in the "outside world" and/or named confusingly on TV Tropes itself. As you note, Gender Bender is often used in the "real world" to describe anything from what we call it to "androgynous" looks. And Gender Flip means something very specific on TV Tropes, but elsewhere is often used as a synonym for what our Gender Bender trope describes.

And technically speaking, we really should be using "sex" instead of "gender" for most of these tropes....

But we're more or less stuck with what we've got.
suedenim
07:24:34 AM Jun 30th 2011
edited by suedenim
bah, wrong discussion, ignore this.

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suedenim
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07:16:04 AM Jun 30th 2011
The recently-added Warrior Cats example (and list of examples on the Warrior Cats work page) is intriguing, but makes me curious about how/why there are so many, and what the mechanism or story reason is for them.

Anyone with more knowledge of the works want to elaborate?

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EphemeralNight
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06:51:43 AM Jul 27th 2011
Is there a reason there's no Fan Fic section on the page?
Torquey
07:10:00 AM Jul 27th 2011
As notable as fanfiction is on this site (not that I like it), a lot of fanfics feature some gender bending. To list them all would be impossible.
suedenim
07:51:46 AM Jul 27th 2011
edited by suedenim
There's no particular reason for not having a Fan Fic section. If you have good examples to list, feel free to add them.

As with any example, it's best to elaborate a bit beyond "This Fan Fic has an example."

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