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Main Fridge Brilliance Discussion
JET73L: Who replaced the gorilla? I liked the gorilla!
But seriously, is there any way that we can make more concisely clear the difference between Fridge Brilliance and Late To The Punchline? As it is, people seem to get too bogged down in all the words. Maybe put a sort of Laconical List Of Subtle Trope Distinctions entry in a clearly visible place in the description of each of the two pages?
Fridge Brilliance: That's stupid. ...Wait, that's cool.
Late To The Punchline: Idon'geddit/I don't notice anything. ...Oh, now I get it!" I think where people are getting confused is that they seem to think that Fridge Brilliance is either applicable to any delayed realization that isn't a joke, or is anything that they thought took a lot of intelligence to see, when it's really something you don't like becoming something you find cool once you realize the flaw you thought was there had already been taken care of— the inverse of Fridge Logic, where something cool becomes stupid once you realize a flaw in it. Late To The Punchline, on the other hand, is where you don't notice the joke because you don't realize the humor in it (I think it needs to be a joke, but I don't know exactly where the line is for the trope thanks to things like satire and parody) or know it's there but not why it's funny. The only crossover is when you fall for Poes Law and then realize it was actually quite a humorous satire rather than a complete idiot. ...I think, some people may not count that as Fridge Brilliance because it's too obvious.
Which brings me to my next point: Brilliance doesn't just mean "Oh, that took a lot of brainpower!" It can also mean "Oh, that sudden click just caused a moment of clarity!" I think the former is what the trope namers were trying to evoke, but still. Just because it's brilliant doesn't mean it's fridge brilliance, and just because it's not brilliant doesn't mean it isn't. So, anyone up for translating the example two-line set and the line/paragraph following it into something concise enough for the tl;dr'ers yet clear enough that it expresses the point of the difference? Because I know I'm not, at least not without quite a bit more experience or a fortuitous flash of a good phrasing idea. By the way, please tell me if I'm Completely Missing The Point, misunderstood the explanations, and they really are that ambiguous.
But seriously, is there any way that we can make more concisely clear the difference between Fridge Brilliance and Late To The Punchline? As it is, people seem to get too bogged down in all the words. Maybe put a sort of Laconical List Of Subtle Trope Distinctions entry in a clearly visible place in the description of each of the two pages?
Fridge Brilliance: That's stupid. ...Wait, that's cool.
Late To The Punchline: Idon'geddit/I don't notice anything. ...Oh, now I get it!" I think where people are getting confused is that they seem to think that Fridge Brilliance is either applicable to any delayed realization that isn't a joke, or is anything that they thought took a lot of intelligence to see, when it's really something you don't like becoming something you find cool once you realize the flaw you thought was there had already been taken care of— the inverse of Fridge Logic, where something cool becomes stupid once you realize a flaw in it. Late To The Punchline, on the other hand, is where you don't notice the joke because you don't realize the humor in it (I think it needs to be a joke, but I don't know exactly where the line is for the trope thanks to things like satire and parody) or know it's there but not why it's funny. The only crossover is when you fall for Poes Law and then realize it was actually quite a humorous satire rather than a complete idiot. ...I think, some people may not count that as Fridge Brilliance because it's too obvious.
Which brings me to my next point: Brilliance doesn't just mean "Oh, that took a lot of brainpower!" It can also mean "Oh, that sudden click just caused a moment of clarity!" I think the former is what the trope namers were trying to evoke, but still. Just because it's brilliant doesn't mean it's fridge brilliance, and just because it's not brilliant doesn't mean it isn't. So, anyone up for translating the example two-line set and the line/paragraph following it into something concise enough for the tl;dr'ers yet clear enough that it expresses the point of the difference? Because I know I'm not, at least not without quite a bit more experience or a fortuitous flash of a good phrasing idea. By the way, please tell me if I'm Completely Missing The Point, misunderstood the explanations, and they really are that ambiguous.
Point of clarification for requested- why does this page have examples when Fridge Logic doesn't?
Fast Eddie, the Fridge Logic page specifically states that Fridge Logic goes into the It Just Bugs Me pages.
I think we should rename this trope to Fridge Humor. When I first saw the link, I thought it was the opposite of Fridge Logic: The more you think about it, the more it makes sense, right? But I was WRONG!!!
Hey, does anyone else notice that this trope is essentially (or at least regularly used as) a justified instance of fridge logic?
I mean, how many times have you seen a fridge logic entry with an additional note that links to fridge brilliance, but looks suspiciously like it should link to "justified trope"?
I've noticed that the Fan Fic page of Fridge Brilliance is basically a copy of the Fan Works folder on the main page. What should we do about it?
ok what happened to the soul anime page on this subject it has fewer examples!I mean it was stuffed full buut now it's barely anything in there.
I think someone moved a lot of the examples to their own Fridge pages, like how Death Note has it's own linked on the main page. So (assuming none of the entries were lost in the transition) I guess the answer of where they've all gone is... here: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/namespace_index.php?ns=Fridge
Should we be doing something about this? Like maybe putting links to all the anime specific ones on the anime page? And doing likewise for the other sections?
Should we be doing something about this? Like maybe putting links to all the anime specific ones on the anime page? And doing likewise for the other sections?
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I don't understand why this was under Web Comics. I doubt that the Sonichu comic made any references to House of Leaves and vice versa. This sounds like something under WMG.
I can't help but observe that without reading the author's mind, there's no way to distinguish Fridge Brilliance from pure coincidence. And as a writer who sometimes spots such coincidences in my own work, I should know.
Should we start a music section in the examples?
For instance: in one of Porcupine Tree's songs ("Blackest Eyes"), I didnt realize until I had listened to the song 8-10 times before I realized he was whispering under the singing, suggesting that the protagonist has dissociative identity disorder (multiple personalities)
If there's a few more we'd have enough to start a music sub-section.