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Codafett
topic
07:42:01 PM Jul 20th 2014
Narm is flamebait now? How?
SeptimusHeap
moderator
01:37:38 AM Jul 21st 2014
<Sigh> Methinks I'll have to ask for its removal.
Discar
10:28:20 AM Jul 21st 2014
It was definitely decided to take it off the index. I hollered a week or so ago, but nothing happened.
SeptimusHeap
moderator
10:29:52 AM Jul 21st 2014
I am planning to bring it forward in the Edit Requests thread once the current backlog has been sorted.
Furian1996
topic
07:12:25 AM May 2nd 2014
Can anyone explain why Fan Dumb and Hate Dumb aren't under Flamebait?
SeptimusHeap
moderator
07:53:12 AM May 2nd 2014
Because the discussions on making it Flame Bait went nowhere.
captainmarkle
01:28:32 PM Jul 8th 2014
Can someone please explain how it is? I've tried searching for the discussion to no avail, and it just led me here.
MagBas
01:47:09 PM Jul 8th 2014
The discussion is in Ask The Tropers.
iansimsjam
topic
02:14:42 AM Apr 2nd 2014
There needs to be a Laconic page so people can understand the definition of Flame Bait.
MsCC93
topic
10:30:37 AM Jul 16th 2013
I want to nominate Mary Sue as Flame Bait since the term is misused for bashing. How can I?
toonyloon
topic
03:00:22 PM Jul 31st 2012
Can someone tell me why Ruined Forever is in Flame Bait?
Fighteer
moderator
11:37:52 AM Aug 1st 2012
Because it was being abused by tropers to complain about shows they didn't like.
Spinosegnosaurus77
topic
12:54:44 PM Sep 17th 2011
I personally think that the Flame Bait banner could be reworded. As Lord Seth once said about Periphery Hatedom, "...what's subjective? No one will deny that a show like Barney and Friends, for example, is an example of this. Whether you think it deserves the hatred is of course subjective, but it is OBJECTIVE to say that it exists."

Just saying.
SpellBlade
04:05:52 PM Sep 17th 2011
Read What Goes Where on the Wiki, under YMMV.
AMNK
05:34:43 PM Oct 10th 2011
edited by AMNK
And the Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment.

This wiki is not a personal playground for hatred spreading.
Spinosegnosaurus77
topic
05:28:21 PM Sep 6th 2011
edited by Spinosegnosaurus77
Why is Character Derailment here? It's not even subjective.

Can these items be listed on a work's page if they're in-universe?

Not to mention, why are some of these still on the main site? Why don't we move them all to the Darth Wiki or *gasp!* the Permanent Red Link Club?
SpellBlade
12:10:55 AM Sep 7th 2011
edited by SpellBlade
CounterBlitzkrieg
topic
03:51:53 PM Aug 13th 2011
edited by CounterBlitzkrieg
Why and how are the Character Alignment tropes flame bait anyways?
SpellBlade
03:56:53 PM Aug 13th 2011
Spinosegnosaurus77
topic
10:25:08 AM Jul 4th 2011
edited by Spinosegnosaurus77
If these are "the forbidden tropes", why haven't we banished all of them to the farthest reaches of the Darth Wiki yet? And in my opinion, Narm could be brought down to a YMMV item.
SpellBlade
01:29:02 PM Jul 4th 2011
People are using Narm to whine - see Narm.Star Wars for an example.
Erda
topic
12:08:05 AM May 19th 2011
I really don't like this absolutist approach to Flame Bait. In pages where there haven't been flame wars over these tropes, is there really a reason to keep removing them - even from the YMMV tab - just because it's been a problem on other pages?
Fighteer
moderator
11:44:48 AM May 26th 2011
Yes. In general, Flame Bait tropes are marked as such because people cannot be trusted with them, period.
Erda
01:52:49 AM Jun 9th 2011
edited by Erda
See, for some of these, you are right - for something like So Bad Its Horrible, it does make sense that they are so flame-inciting that there is no point. But with something like Character Derailment, when there are examples of character derailment that are generally agreed-upon on particular fanbases AND represent a significant issue for that particular show that should be addressed on TV Tropes, then it does not make sense to keep removing them in every single instance. Something being controversial is not a reason to keep it from being discussed, and we have other rules (like the ones against Natter and the Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment) that really should make blanket prescriptions against certain tropes unnecessary.

I just feel like we should not treat everything on this page with the same brush. Some of these discussions are less important and necessary than others. I don't like that TV Tropes seems to be shying away from any type of controversy these days.
lightning37
02:55:38 PM Jun 16th 2011
For that matter, why is Unpleasable Fanbase on that list? Will both sides of said Unpleasable Fanbase think everything is right as it is?
AMNK
06:00:22 PM Jul 8th 2011
AMNK
05:50:57 PM Sep 5th 2011
And, from the Homepage itself, "We are also not a wiki for bashing things. Once again, we're about celebrating fiction, not showing off how snide and sarcastic we can be."
Spinosegnosaurus77
12:27:04 PM Dec 14th 2011
Same with Periphery Hatedom- I can see how one would start a Flame War over, say, Taylor Swift being an example, but Barney & Friends? Come on!
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