Main Fantastic Racism Discussion

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LoneWolfEbrg
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09:17:29 PM Jun 16th 2014
edited by 87.224.188.167
"Can lead to Unfortunate Implications if, despite the co-opting of the struggle of a minority for drama, the cast remains largely straight, white, and pretty. "

This sentence in the description sounds like it refers to badly written works which deal with Real Life, rather then Fantastic, racism (though I guess a variant of it is possible with its Fantastic type - the author wants to make the point that the Fantastic Species is unfairly discriminated against, but the narrative itself treats the species in question as a bit of a joke). Needs deleting or rephrasing.
Ingonyama
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06:15:14 PM Apr 24th 2012
To the person commenting on The 10th Kingdom: I'm not sure if you were criticizing the writers of the movie or the person who was seeing racism in it, but either way, something of note—the very fact Wolf is depicted as a raving sex maniac creates Unfortunate Implications if one compares racism against wolves to that against blacks, because "raving sex maniac" is what people used to think black men were. Tony's line "He's [an X], that's what Xes do!" is a textbook example of racism. As for burning at the stake, that really has nothing to do with what wolf racism may or may not have been based on, since the Nine Kingdoms is a medieval-type world presumably operating on Burn the Witch! syndrome for anything supernatural or different regardless of any real-world parallels.

Of course if these parallels are not merely in the minds of the audience but were intended by the writer, then it's just a bit of Anvilicious Aesop-dropping—which is what Fantastic Racism is intended for in the first place.
VVK
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02:58:26 PM Dec 22nd 2011
edited by VVK
Is this still only applicable when the prejudice is symbolic of something specific in real life, rather than just any imaginary prejudice? I remember that being pointed out before somewhere, but the description as it is now doesn't make that point.
LoserTakesAll
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11:49:36 PM Mar 4th 2011
Removed from the Top 10 entry under comics:

  • It's fairly quickly established that she doesn't dislike him because he's a robot, she dislikes him because He joined the force to replace her friend and partner Girl One, who had just been killed.

Because the example it's replying to is talking about Peter "Shock-Headed Peter" Cheney. The above reply is clearly referring to Irma Geddon, a completely different character (your first clue is that Pete is a "he," Irma is a "she.")
Kevinbringer
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01:36:11 AM Feb 24th 2011
In the Avatar example, I would argue that a really expensive superconductor is not likely to save earth or humanity. The trope still applies, but the stuff in the spoiler text is not true.
LoserTakesAll
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01:44:42 AM Feb 4th 2011
Removed because it's just regular old racism:

  • Played for laughs in The Animal where the protagonist's Black Best Friend, Miles, doesn't ever get people's attention because he's black.

69.131.26.126
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09:25:07 PM Nov 3rd 2010
Fantastic racism?! Since when is racism fantastic?! It's harmful and evil!

Whoever started that trope should be punished for it.
LoserTakesAll
01:56:10 AM Feb 4th 2011
edited by LoserTakesAll
From Merriam Webster's free online dictionary:

fanĚtasĚtic adj.

1 a: based on fantasy : not real b: conceived or seemingly conceived by unrestrained fancy c : so extreme as to challenge belief : unbelievable; broadly : exceedingly large or great

2: marked by extravagant fantasy or extreme individuality : eccentric

3: excellent, superlative

This trope would be referring to definition 1, not 3.
MikeRosoft
12:48:07 PM Apr 9th 2012
edited by MikeRosoft
Or, to put it simply, this trope refers to racism in works of fiction against fantastic races (such as elves or the undead), or to their racism against humans or each other.
msmrize
06:03:28 AM May 10th 2014
Seriously though, we should rename it "Fantasy Racism" or something.
SeptimusHeap
06:33:42 AM May 10th 2014
No, because that would refer to the fantasy genre, not to "Fantasy worlds".
Peteman
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06:41:37 PM Mar 8th 2010
Can the human on human racism in BSG be considered Fantastic? It seems pretty run of the mill racism.
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