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robert
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10:47:03 AM Apr 6th 2010
Elditch Abominations, by their nature, can't really be real. There are no living violations of natural law in our universe, only things we don't fully understand yet, and none of them drive people mad.

In the absence of objection, I'll remove the whole category, before it gets out of hand.
Kuruni
11:27:33 PM Apr 6th 2010
Really, Eldritch Abomination need not to viloate natural law of universe. I mean, if Yog Sozthoth really exist then itself is part of universe nature. But it is something that contradict with our understanding of universe, to the point that we need to reconstruct concept of time and space from scratch in order to cover it. And we might unable to do that with our puny mind.

Thus, not all entries in RL section is obsolete. I think Bloop is valid one. It's vague enough and is trail of something contradict with our undertsanding of nature. The section still nedd to be clean-up though.
robert
02:56:17 AM Apr 7th 2010
Yog-Soggoth isn't part of our universe; it violates the laws that govern us. Still, anything sufficiently alien that it defies a common sense understanding of the universe might qualify, as a borderline case. Viruses, on the other hand don't. When they drive people mad, it's through direct damage to the brain, not sheer reason-defying incomprehensibility. Maths doesn't qualify either, being confined to the platonic realm - you can't find the Monster Group stalking the desolate moors.

I've trimmed the real life example a bit, as a starting point.

Paireon
11:40:29 AM Apr 18th 2010
I agree with the Bloop belonging here - the most likely explanation for it remains a lifeform big enough to defy our current understanding of biology, even when taking abyssal gigantism into account. And any case of violating the laws of the universe should always have the caveat "according to our current understanding" anyway, including any "supernatural" phenomenon.

And it's written Yog-Sothoth.
Dagobitus
12:26:11 PM Sep 15th 2010
Harry Potter isn't part of our universe; it violates the laws that govern us. The point is that Potter is a perfectly natural member of his own Universe, just as Arkham is a real place in the Lovecraft Universe. Abominations are violations of the very fictional universes that they infect. The ""place"" where abominations ""live"" can NOT be called a "universe" according to any meaningful definition of the word.
Paireon
09:31:37 AM Jan 24th 2011
Soooo... According to your definition, if, hypothetically speaking, Harry Potter appeared in a non-supernatural universe (say,a Mary Higgins Clark novel), that would make him an abomination? Look, the whole point of Lovecraft was the realization that under proper circumstances such beings CAN live in the same universe as us. Some of them are actually fundamental aspects of it. And as for Yog-Sothoth, well, it's the embodiment of Space and Time, which last time I checked were pretty important parts of our universe.

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72.195.189.210
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09:22:51 AM Jul 10th 2010
Does anyone else see a wierd assortment of... for lack of a better term, letters that appear when you open the web original folder? It does seem rather fitting if it was intentional, but creepy when you think of it too much.
72.195.189.210
09:25:00 AM Jul 10th 2010
Oh scratch that, it was intentional.

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87.226.119.249
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12:54:25 PM Jul 17th 2010
edited by 87.226.119.249
How about using the "Hast...SBLOORSH!" form? Cultists would recognize and appreciate. G!

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Paireon
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09:52:19 PM Aug 29th 2010
  • Although [spoiler:Nekron being powerless without a link in the form of Black Hand (so he can have a physical body rather than being a bodiless spirit) and the Anti-Monitor trapped in his Black Battery as a power source] may disqualify him from true E.A. status, particularly since [spoiler:he was turned back into that empty, powerless spirit and tossed down some deep dark hole where he can't affect the universe any longer in BN #8 - and without Black Hand being dead (and thus available as a link through which he can form a body) and the Anti-Monitor trapped (to give him actual power), he's effectively nullified forever as far as "being a threat" goes].

Removed, because being powerless in our universe without an anchor is a rather common Abomination weakness, Yog-Sothoth for example is somehow blocked from most forms of direct action upon "our" location in space-time unless cultists breach the limitation somehow, and Hounds of Tindalos can only come to "curved" time when linked with a temporal interloper, and even then only through three-dimensional inner angles.

Besides, anybody who knows superhero comics knows bad guys usually don't stay down forever. If I had a quarter for every very-definitely-defeated-forever-and-ever comicbook villain who came back, I'd... well, I wouldn't be rich, but I'd probably have enough to buy a PS 3.

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SpookyMask
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09:49:53 AM Sep 16th 2010
Where is the new page pic from?

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Preda
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07:18:21 AM Sep 19th 2010
I think there are too many worldly examples. I mean, seriously, The Alien Queen? Why not put the T-rex there too, he was big and ugly.
shade270
08:29:22 PM Sep 19th 2010
Agreed. Too many examples there aren't Eldritch Abominations, just odd creatures. Dagobitus says a very apt description in a different comment above. "Abominations are violations of the very fictional universes that they infect." A monster that looks weird, has acid for blood and tentacles around its face is just a weird looking monster. A monster that breaks the fictional universes laws of physics, comes from some place far away and which mind rapes reality itself is definatly a contentered to the title. In short, being freaky looking doesn't make it a Eldritch Abomination, its just an example of Trope Decay.

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65.183.104.249
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07:11:04 AM Oct 8th 2010
How can looking at something odd cause us to lose our minds? I find that hard to believe. But of course, I know it's fiction.
Jabberwockyslayer
05:16:46 PM Oct 17th 2010
Its kind of like looking at some weird thing and going "Uhhh" for a bit until you realize what it is.

Here, its taken to the Nth power.
MarqFJA
04:59:31 AM Oct 29th 2010
edited by MarqFJA
Simple: Imagine trying to take in "visual input" that the human sensory system and/or mind is not supposed to be able to comprehend/process.
Iaculus
05:54:37 AM Oct 29th 2010
Yep. Like putting corrupted data onto a computer and screwing up the whole system.

That, or it's so unbelievably horrific to look at that people are utterly traumatised by it.
Archereon
06:07:25 PM Nov 3rd 2010
Or in some cases, the creatures have passive psychic powers that acomplish the Mind Rape

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Kuruni
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08:55:15 PM Oct 28th 2010
I had remove Castlevania Legion. Aside from being Nightmare Fuel, the Legion in Castlevania lacking any character so we go for its origin in The Bible. Being composed of large group of demons is good start, but since it beg mercy from Jesus...it was automatically disqualified.

(Copy from archived discussion, by myself :p .)

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Paireon
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02:27:27 PM Nov 19th 2010
  • Something Awful and /co/'s Dogscape, a colossal organic mass of dog parts smothering the entire globe leaving only trees growing puppy fetuses and occasional masses of milk teats as the only sustenance for the few remaining scraps of humanity.

Before following that link, I was afraid my capacity at being horrified was becoming hopelessly atrophied. Thank you for banishing such silly notions from my mind. Waiter, 10 gallons of Brain Bleach, please!
Icarael
01:38:18 AM Oct 26th 2011
You're welcome.

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Ekuran
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04:38:43 AM Nov 20th 2010
Anybody up for creating sub-pages? It's gotten really huge, so I think it's time.

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Signed
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09:17:21 PM Dec 11th 2010
Anyone know what the image in the this trope's page is supposed to be?

endangeredmonkey
04:48:14 AM Dec 12th 2010
edited by endangeredmonkey
All I can think of is that compared to the previous picture, that is one small abomination. With the other picture, the size of the creature in comparison to the dot-people really gave it a whole other layer of intensity.

EDIT: Aaaand...I have NO idea what the current one is. It seems like something that would only make sense if you've seen the work it's from, and really does not illustrate the trope.
goodisgood214
06:53:36 PM Jan 12th 2011
That would be shub-niggurath, a the black goat of the woods with a thousand young. Its a being from H.P lovecraft's works. It fits here, but perhaps a more imposing image is appropriate.
endangeredmonkey
05:01:32 PM Jan 13th 2011
I'm assuming that the reason why the other image was taken down is because it is also the image for Mother Of A Thousand Young. I still liked it better, though.
Davie
12:55:43 AM Apr 3rd 2011
I have to say, the terrified cultists are a nice touch, but I also think something bigger would be better.

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Paireon
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10:10:49 AM Jan 24th 2011
On another note, why were the ruins in Uzumaki (anime and manga section) removed? They always struck me as fitting the bill (Infects and twists reality horribly to its whims? Check. Causes madness in affected humans? Check. Can only interact with our world under specific cicumstances? Check. Impossibly ancient/alien? Unconfirmed, but very probable as noted in-story by the Doomed Protagonist).
Paireon
08:32:50 PM Mar 2nd 2011
Oookay... Since nobody answered, I'm gonna rewrite it in.

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TomBarter
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10:00:33 AM May 13th 2011
Why was Allah removed from the religious section? The Judeo-Christian god is in there so why not Allah?
Paireon
09:49:28 AM Jun 12th 2011
edited by Paireon
Probably someone a little too concerned about keeping things PC. Although as someone who is somewhat knowledgeable about religion, it kinda miffed me that Allah had IIRC been put in the middle-eastern section instead of the abrahamic section, since last time I checked Islam was still an abrahamic religion. Going to add it back but in the right place this time.

EDIT: Looks like somebody already did it before me.

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Paireon
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09:44:50 AM Jun 12th 2011

  • The Machine Emperors (Mechanized Emperors now, apparently...) tried to be the ultimate incarnations of evil, basically being the Duel Monsters Grinch or something. Then it turned out there are a million of them. They also die too easily.

I think we can all agree how obvious it is that this simply doesn't belong here. Cut from the Yu-Gi-Oh entry in the Anime sub-page.

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PrometheusUnbound
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08:45:24 AM Jan 7th 2012
Would TV tropes itself count as an Eldritch Abomination?

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Marr965
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01:39:18 PM Feb 6th 2012
Suggestion for the explanation of what an Eldritch Abomination actually is: "It's the pentagon in a world full of hexagons."

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