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10:25:49 PM Feb 28th 2017
Since Biblical angels are described as this, can Biblical demons be considered eldritch abominations as well?
02:11:44 PM Oct 12th 2015
How exactly can this particular trope have anything remotely approaching a Real Life example? just asking!
02:38:06 PM Dec 26th 2015
edited by WalterSmith
What about black holes? They're the only objects in the known universe where space and time reach their limit. As long as we don't figure out the mechanics of Quantum Gravity, falling into one is always assumed to be one-way ticket to be Deader Than Dead.

Anyway, since they're not sentient, this sounds more like an Eldritch Location.
08:38:16 PM Jun 11th 2016
edited by valos
I was wondering exactly this. What kind of complete and utter idiocy led to this being a NRLEP trope? >_>
07:05:48 PM Oct 25th 2014
Is it just me, or should kaiju be included as eldritch horrors? To be honest, I've never thought of them as "a type of creature defined by its disregard for the natural laws of the universe as we understand them"; just as god-awful big 'n destructive. ('Sides, kaiju have their own separate category, which I think is appropriate.)
01:50:33 AM Oct 26th 2014
Hrmm ... the Kaiju I am familiar with (which is very little, I'll admit) do somewhat understandable motives and thus don't fit this trope.
06:07:09 PM Aug 21st 2014
Cut from the Tabletop Gaming:
  • An argument can be made to include the all powerful Dragon known as Nicol Bolas. Originally he was simply one of five Dragons known as the Elder Dragons. Later, because he bore the spark, he ascended to the status of a Pre-Mending Planeswalker. He was quite possibly the very FIRST planeswalker in the history of that world to boot. Later, when the Mending came, he was one of the few Pre-Mending Planeswalkers to survive the process of the Mending with his spark intact. This allowed him to become one of the Post Mending Planeswalkers. Add to this the fact that as the oldest Planeswalker, he really wouldn't rest with the power-level of the Post-Mending Planeswalkers, so he set about executing a series of Deus ex Machina's with the sole purpose of getting him back up to Pre-Mending power levels. He succeeded in his efforts. Thus rendering him the single most powerful Planeswalker at the current time, and thus truly worthy of the title "Eldritch Horror."

Nope. Power alone does not make you eldritch. He doesn't break the internal logic of Magic, and indeed for all his power he's fairly tame compared to old-style planeswalkers; nor is his appearance or mindset particularly unnatural - he's a dragon who acts like a comic book supervillain, and if his presence is bad for a plane, it's because he's deliberately damaging it, not because his existence strains reality or anything like that.
01:12:03 AM Aug 22nd 2014
Yep, that writeup is not of an Eldritch Abomination. It's also far too spoilery.
04:25:05 PM May 9th 2014
How does on pronounce Elderitch?
12:37:02 AM Jun 25th 2014
El-der-itch (rhymes with witch)
03:15:47 PM Jan 19th 2015
El (as in the letter L) dritch (as in ditch). You added an extra E.
12:22:37 AM Apr 28th 2014
A lot of the medium categories are too small to warrant their own sub-page. Something I've seen done with other tropes split into subsections is that the smaller categories remain on the main trope page, while only the larger categories are put into sub-pages. Would it be alright if I did that here, putting the contents from the small pages here?
12:51:07 AM May 2nd 2014
Okay, I'm gonna do it anyway. If it's reversed I won't try and reinstate my changes.
03:16:04 PM Aug 9th 2013
I have been wondering this for quite some time but... has the "Giant mushroom with tentacles" and the girl of the picture of this trope a name?
07:46:29 PM Apr 6th 2014
The mushroom is an Eldrazi from Magic the Gathering. They basically drain the life force form entire planes of existence, so it's pretty suitable for the page image.
02:23:37 AM Jun 25th 2014
Personally I prefer the old picture

you know, the one from the Call of Cthulhu RPG
07:17:55 PM Apr 6th 2013
I think we need an Image Pickin'' thread for this one. Nearly every time I come to the page, there's a different image.
07:50:17 PM Apr 6th 2013
edited by ashlay
Sure you mean the Eldritch Abomination page? Cause Fast Eddie deleted the last image on January 11th due to a nudity complaint, and there hasn't been another page image till earlier today.
02:44:48 PM Apr 4th 2013
What happened to the page pic?
01:49:55 AM Apr 5th 2013
There was a complaint about the nudity in it. No idea why, but oh well.
01:06:28 PM Apr 6th 2013
Added a new pic that as far as I can tell has nothing resembling a breast. Think that was the issue.
01:12:11 PM Apr 6th 2013
Looks good to me, 'specially since it has aspects of this-really-isn't-just-a-normal-Earth-biological-monster in the form of that glowing globe thing. Thanks for finding a new image.
11:18:29 AM Jul 16th 2013
The current picture just looks like a big, uprooted mushroom to me.
01:57:55 PM Dec 31st 2013
Based on the implied scale at least it is a very large mushroom. If Fenrir the wolf can qualify solely based on his size I think that thing might count too. I would be open to alternate suggestions though.
08:00:14 AM Dec 28th 2012
edited by efay
I feel like we're verging on Trope Decay with some of these examples. I think the description should include a checklist similar to the one on the Cosmic Horror Story page, since unfortunately, many Tropers are not going to bother to read all that text.
02:25:02 AM Jun 25th 2014
I completely agree with you
10:04:14 PM Dec 20th 2012
What happened to the "something familiar isn't an example" paragraph? With the horde of mile-tall soul-devourers flying down on umbral wings once a month?
11:14:54 AM Nov 9th 2012
Considering the first line of the article talks about how describing Eldritch Abominations is impossible, would it be alright to add Describe Trope Here to the top of the page? Just for pun? Er, fun?
07:00:40 PM Oct 20th 2012
Okay. Who keeps listing this as a simple index? What is there even to index?
11:25:25 PM Oct 20th 2012
The medium subpages are indexed here, so the page type needs to be trope+index.
08:13:31 PM Sep 30th 2012
Why was the real life subpage removed? Admittedly it was entirely speculation, but it was reasonable, and theres a good deal of speculation in other examples, as well as ones that don't truly fit.
02:26:22 AM Jun 25th 2014
I'm in total agreement with you

If Black Holes don't count as "Eldritch Abominations" nothing does
10:13:45 PM Sep 8th 2014
also time may be an eldritch abomination
11:07:08 AM Apr 14th 2012
Should I add, the organism from John Carpenters "The Thing"? It seems pretty eldritch.
02:26:57 AM Jun 25th 2014
I am in total agreement with you
01:39:18 PM Feb 6th 2012
Suggestion for the explanation of what an Eldritch Abomination actually is: "It's the pentagon in a world full of hexagons."
06:37:37 AM Aug 23rd 2012
More like, the geodesic sphere in a world full of circles.
08:45:24 AM Jan 7th 2012
Would TV tropes itself count as an Eldritch Abomination?
04:40:22 PM Apr 24th 2012
I don't really think of myself as being able to go mad from viewing TV tropes...
02:28:27 AM Jun 25th 2014
No but 4chan definitely does

didn't you ever wonder why Slender Man looks so similar to the symbol for Anonymous?
09:44:50 AM Jun 12th 2011

  • The Machine Emperors (Mechanized Emperors now, apparently...) tried to be the ultimate incarnations of evil, basically being the Duel Monsters Grinch or something. Then it turned out there are a million of them. They also die too easily.

I think we can all agree how obvious it is that this simply doesn't belong here. Cut from the Yu-Gi-Oh entry in the Anime sub-page.
10:00:33 AM May 13th 2011
Why was Allah removed from the religious section? The Judeo-Christian god is in there so why not Allah?
09:49:28 AM Jun 12th 2011
edited by Paireon
Probably someone a little too concerned about keeping things PC. Although as someone who is somewhat knowledgeable about religion, it kinda miffed me that Allah had IIRC been put in the middle-eastern section instead of the abrahamic section, since last time I checked Islam was still an abrahamic religion. Going to add it back but in the right place this time.

EDIT: Looks like somebody already did it before me.
04:39:23 PM Apr 24th 2012
Aren't they the same person but under a different name?
11:14:30 AM May 8th 2012
02:29:44 AM Jun 25th 2014
You are correct, Thinkingtroper

Allah and Jehovah are one and the same
10:10:49 AM Jan 24th 2011
On another note, why were the ruins in Uzumaki (anime and manga section) removed? They always struck me as fitting the bill (Infects and twists reality horribly to its whims? Check. Causes madness in affected humans? Check. Can only interact with our world under specific cicumstances? Check. Impossibly ancient/alien? Unconfirmed, but very probable as noted in-story by the Doomed Protagonist).
08:32:50 PM Mar 2nd 2011
Oookay... Since nobody answered, I'm gonna rewrite it in.
09:17:21 PM Dec 11th 2010
Anyone know what the image in the this trope's page is supposed to be?

04:48:14 AM Dec 12th 2010
edited by endangeredmonkey
All I can think of is that compared to the previous picture, that is one small abomination. With the other picture, the size of the creature in comparison to the dot-people really gave it a whole other layer of intensity.

EDIT: Aaaand...I have NO idea what the current one is. It seems like something that would only make sense if you've seen the work it's from, and really does not illustrate the trope.
06:53:36 PM Jan 12th 2011
That would be shub-niggurath, a the black goat of the woods with a thousand young. Its a being from H.P lovecraft's works. It fits here, but perhaps a more imposing image is appropriate.
05:01:32 PM Jan 13th 2011
I'm assuming that the reason why the other image was taken down is because it is also the image for Mother of a Thousand Young. I still liked it better, though.
12:55:43 AM Apr 3rd 2011
I have to say, the terrified cultists are a nice touch, but I also think something bigger would be better.
04:38:43 AM Nov 20th 2010
Anybody up for creating sub-pages? It's gotten really huge, so I think it's time.
02:27:27 PM Nov 19th 2010
  • Something Awful and /co/'s Dogscape, a colossal organic mass of dog parts smothering the entire globe leaving only trees growing puppy fetuses and occasional masses of milk teats as the only sustenance for the few remaining scraps of humanity.

Before following that link, I was afraid my capacity at being horrified was becoming hopelessly atrophied. Thank you for banishing such silly notions from my mind. Waiter, 10 gallons of Brain Bleach, please!
01:38:18 AM Oct 26th 2011
08:55:15 PM Oct 28th 2010
I had remove Castlevania Legion. Aside from being Nightmare Fuel, the Legion in Castlevania lacking any character so we go for its origin in The Bible. Being composed of large group of demons is good start, but since it beg mercy from was automatically disqualified.

(Copy from archived discussion, by myself :p .)
07:11:04 AM Oct 8th 2010
How can looking at something odd cause us to lose our minds? I find that hard to believe. But of course, I know it's fiction.
05:16:46 PM Oct 17th 2010
Its kind of like looking at some weird thing and going "Uhhh" for a bit until you realize what it is.

Here, its taken to the Nth power.
04:59:31 AM Oct 29th 2010
edited by MarqFJA
Simple: Imagine trying to take in "visual input" that the human sensory system and/or mind is not supposed to be able to comprehend/process.
05:54:37 AM Oct 29th 2010
Yep. Like putting corrupted data onto a computer and screwing up the whole system.

That, or it's so unbelievably horrific to look at that people are utterly traumatised by it.
06:07:25 PM Nov 3rd 2010
Or in some cases, the creatures have passive psychic powers that acomplish the Mind Rape
02:19:00 PM May 20th 2012
Or, the thing that drives you mad is the realization that such things exist which destroy your entire view of the world and shatter your understanding of reality, not the sight itself.
06:43:48 AM Aug 23rd 2012
If you can look at this and see static rotating objects, you could probably look at an eldritch abomination without going insane.

You might get motion sickness, though.
12:27:01 PM Oct 21st 2012
Numerous ways how it drives you insane: 1. The abomination has psychic powers to drive you insane. 2. You go insane trying to figure out what the hell just happened. 3. The realization of your own insignficance drives you to insanity. 4. You go insane from the sheer terror. 5. It's forbidden to look at and as such doing it is punished through going insane. 6. You go insane from realizing the universe is cruel enough to allow these things to exist. Probably more ways but that's all I have at the moment.
07:18:21 AM Sep 19th 2010
I think there are too many worldly examples. I mean, seriously, The Alien Queen? Why not put the T-rex there too, he was big and ugly.
08:29:22 PM Sep 19th 2010
Agreed. Too many examples there aren't Eldritch Abominations, just odd creatures. Dagobitus says a very apt description in a different comment above. "Abominations are violations of the very fictional universes that they infect." A monster that looks weird, has acid for blood and tentacles around its face is just a weird looking monster. A monster that breaks the fictional universes laws of physics, comes from some place far away and which mind rapes reality itself is definatly a contentered to the title. In short, being freaky looking doesn't make it a Eldritch Abomination, its just an example of Trope Decay.
09:49:53 AM Sep 16th 2010
Where is the new page pic from?
09:52:19 PM Aug 29th 2010
  • Although [spoiler:Nekron being powerless without a link in the form of Black Hand (so he can have a physical body rather than being a bodiless spirit) and the Anti-Monitor trapped in his Black Battery as a power source] may disqualify him from true E.A. status, particularly since [spoiler:he was turned back into that empty, powerless spirit and tossed down some deep dark hole where he can't affect the universe any longer in BN #8 - and without Black Hand being dead (and thus available as a link through which he can form a body) and the Anti-Monitor trapped (to give him actual power), he's effectively nullified forever as far as "being a threat" goes].

Removed, because being powerless in our universe without an anchor is a rather common Abomination weakness, Yog-Sothoth for example is somehow blocked from most forms of direct action upon "our" location in space-time unless cultists breach the limitation somehow, and Hounds of Tindalos can only come to "curved" time when linked with a temporal interloper, and even then only through three-dimensional inner angles.

Besides, anybody who knows superhero comics knows bad guys usually don't stay down forever. If I had a quarter for every very-definitely-defeated-forever-and-ever comicbook villain who came back, I'd... well, I wouldn't be rich, but I'd probably have enough to buy a PS3.
12:54:25 PM Jul 17th 2010
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How about using the "Hast...SBLOORSH!" form? Cultists would recognize and appreciate. G!
09:22:51 AM Jul 10th 2010
Does anyone else see a wierd assortment of... for lack of a better term, letters that appear when you open the web original folder? It does seem rather fitting if it was intentional, but creepy when you think of it too much.
09:25:00 AM Jul 10th 2010
Oh scratch that, it was intentional.
10:47:03 AM Apr 6th 2010
Elditch Abominations, by their nature, can't really be real. There are no living violations of natural law in our universe, only things we don't fully understand yet, and none of them drive people mad.

In the absence of objection, I'll remove the whole category, before it gets out of hand.
11:27:33 PM Apr 6th 2010
Really, Eldritch Abomination need not to viloate natural law of universe. I mean, if Yog Sozthoth really exist then itself is part of universe nature. But it is something that contradict with our understanding of universe, to the point that we need to reconstruct concept of time and space from scratch in order to cover it. And we might unable to do that with our puny mind.

Thus, not all entries in RL section is obsolete. I think Bloop is valid one. It's vague enough and is trail of something contradict with our undertsanding of nature. The section still nedd to be clean-up though.
02:56:17 AM Apr 7th 2010
Yog-Soggoth isn't part of our universe; it violates the laws that govern us. Still, anything sufficiently alien that it defies a common sense understanding of the universe might qualify, as a borderline case. Viruses, on the other hand don't. When they drive people mad, it's through direct damage to the brain, not sheer reason-defying incomprehensibility. Maths doesn't qualify either, being confined to the platonic realm - you can't find the Monster Group stalking the desolate moors.

I've trimmed the real life example a bit, as a starting point.

11:40:29 AM Apr 18th 2010
I agree with the Bloop belonging here - the most likely explanation for it remains a lifeform big enough to defy our current understanding of biology, even when taking abyssal gigantism into account. And any case of violating the laws of the universe should always have the caveat "according to our current understanding" anyway, including any "supernatural" phenomenon.

And it's written Yog-Sothoth.
12:26:11 PM Sep 15th 2010
Harry Potter isn't part of our universe; it violates the laws that govern us. The point is that Potter is a perfectly natural member of his own Universe, just as Arkham is a real place in the Lovecraft Universe. Abominations are violations of the very fictional universes that they infect. The ""place"" where abominations ""live"" can NOT be called a "universe" according to any meaningful definition of the word.
09:31:37 AM Jan 24th 2011
Soooo... According to your definition, if, hypothetically speaking, Harry Potter appeared in a non-supernatural universe (say,a Mary Higgins Clark novel), that would make him an abomination? Look, the whole point of Lovecraft was the realization that under proper circumstances such beings CAN live in the same universe as us. Some of them are actually fundamental aspects of it. And as for Yog-Sothoth, well, it's the embodiment of Space and Time, which last time I checked were pretty important parts of our universe.
08:11:27 PM Sep 30th 2012
I think it should be here. The aforementioned Bloop could be considered an example, also the entry on the internet was disturbingly accurate.
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