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KingLyger
topic
11:38:15 AM Dec 8th 2014
I would like to suggest that Macho Disaster Expedition be moved from "Sexist Against Men" to "Sexist Against Either." Yes, the trope does make men all look like morons, but it also inherently implies that Women Are Wiser, and that a woman's place is in the kitchen, even if it's on a camping trip in the middle of nowhere.
SeptimusHeap
moderator
12:58:22 PM Dec 8th 2014
Eh, that seems to be readint too much into it.
MrDeath
01:18:40 PM Dec 8th 2014
And is just plain inaccurate. The things that women are shown to be good at in that trope tend to be everything but "kitchen" things.
sirchazbot
topic
10:35:58 AM Jul 31st 2014
edited by 50.148.22.185
"Sexist Against Men" needs to be changed. You cannot be sexist against men. You can be BIASED against men, but to be sexist requires the other genders to be in a position of power over males, and per 1,000s of years of patriarchal domination, men have held the dominant social position.
Larkmarn
10:53:44 AM Jul 31st 2014
edited by 156.33.241.3
From The Other Wiki: "Sexism or gender discrimination is prejudice or discrimination based on a person's sex or gender."

Some people think that sexism only applies against females, much like some people think that racism only applies to majorities. But that arbitrary definition is simply not the one that this site uses.
TigerHunter
topic
12:19:33 PM Jul 30th 2014
Many of these examples should really be edited to be less rant-y. Additionally, there are tons of examples in "Sexist Against Men/Women" that are then described as "Sexist Against Either", and should be re-categorized as such.
Willbyr
moderator
topic
08:46:22 AM Jul 29th 2014
This entry needs to be rewritten to deal with the strident tone and the sub-bulleted part.

SeptimusHeap
moderator
09:29:45 AM Jul 29th 2014
I would use the following:
  • Moe: Characters described as this are frequently portrayed as stupid, clumsy or naive when female.
Willbyr
moderator
11:49:44 AM Jul 29th 2014
Good enough; it's swapped in.
theAdeptRogue
topic
08:55:54 PM Jul 25th 2014
Shouldn't Rape Is a Special Kind of Evil be moved to the 'Frequently sexist in execution or delivery, but not sexist in nature" folder instead of the "Sexist Against Men" one? Unless it specifically states that the trope doesn't apply to male victims, it's not sexist on its own.
SeptimusHeap
moderator
02:50:08 AM Jul 26th 2014
While I don't know all the rape associations well, at first glance it doesn't belong there.
LBHills
topic
02:32:34 PM Jun 24th 2014
Can somebody with the authority to work around the lock do something about the All Men Are Perverts example under 'Sexist against Men'? Even if the ideas are somehow sacrosanct, the grammar and the confusion between 'then' and 'than' is irksome. Cooling the rant-like quality off a little would be nice, but I'm not insisting.
SeptimusHeap
moderator
11:07:13 PM Jun 24th 2014
We have an edit requests thread here, for the record.
spritle101
topic
02:07:14 AM Nov 29th 2013
Is there a Double Standard trope for when no one bats an eye at all the human bloodshed they're laughing at, but when the dog or cat gets hurt, the line has been crossed & the mood goes down?
AgentTasmania
07:43:49 AM May 10th 2014
That's more about Humas Are Bastards or general misanthropy.
TigerHunter
12:01:08 PM Jul 30th 2014
TigerHunter
topic
07:06:43 PM Nov 15th 2013
Wouldn't Hit a Girl should be under "Sexist Against Either", since part of the trope is that women are exempt from violence because they're weak. I'd move it myself, but the page is locked.
Darkhorse
12:07:52 PM Nov 17th 2013
Stoogebie
topic
10:32:29 AM Oct 22nd 2013
edited by 134.39.179.68
I know this sounds like a rant, but it seems like there are a few double standards on This Very Wiki. For instance, a lot of people seem to be under the impression that this refers only to tropes that are sexist, and furthermore, specifically sexist against women. About half the tropes listed on the page seem to get a lot less of a negative response in different places (it seems like pages like this mention Ms. Fanservice or the camera's near-constant focus on her assets, And That's Terrible. But look for this trope under a character page that mentions said character being Ms. Fanservice...and that's awesome! Hypocrites much? Don't try to tell me it's because the editor on the latter was "obviously" a male, either). Second, this doesn't just apply to sexism; one case that seems to bug me is a lot of people on this site's attitude toward some supposedly non-Acceptable Targets in the religious realm. If there are cases where religious nutjobs make the whole sect look bad, they may be admitted as such, but are still considered "real" cases. Contrast this with militant atheists who openly bash religion to the point of Kick the Dog, so much so that even other atheists don't like them, but these are treated as Hollywood Atheists (read: not "real" atheists) or just trolls trying to make non-believers look bad.

Am I wrong to feel like someone's getting jipped here? I don't mean to offend anyone (though I'm sure I already have), but I'm just saying.
LC
05:17:44 PM Nov 7th 2013
You do realize that tv tropes are not written by one person,right?
pittsburghmuggle
01:00:44 AM Nov 8th 2013
edited by 67.171.103.170
Indeed, LC speaks truth. Hard to pin down what a thousand different editors are doing. Instead of complaining, open a forum thread.
Stoogebie
05:45:41 PM Nov 28th 2013
Fair enough.
TastySauce
04:50:48 AM Mar 21st 2014
The reference to When Harry Met Sally under All Men Are Perverts is red, I think it's misspelt. The fact that it's in the description means it deserves attention.
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