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86.177.46.231
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01:09:07 PM Mar 13th 2010
Can we please get a better image of Matt Smith in the compilation? It's pixellated to Hell and back, and he looks like he's wearing lipstick.
PhantomCobra
07:53:49 PM Dec 26th 2010
For that matter, is there a better picture of David Tennant? The current one really doesn't do him justice.
OldManHoOh
08:02:50 PM Dec 26th 2010
True. I recall that's one of the early photos. No idea who actually makes these images though.

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Ingonyama
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08:36:10 AM Mar 19th 2010
edited by Ingonyama
Just wondering...because the list of tropes is so long for this show, would it be easier on readers' eyes to split the list between the Old and New series? Or would it make a difference? I know several tropes appear in both shows, after all...
SilentHunter
11:38:14 AM Mar 19th 2010
edited by SilentHunter
A lot appear in both eras, so we can't really split it.

Also, some would consider it one show.
118.210.26.13
07:25:26 AM May 5th 2010
Perhaps the list could be split somehow differently:

Tropes from all of DW Tropes unique to classic tropes unique to new

or something like that?
violettglass
03:52:32 PM Jun 28th 2010
I wouldn't want to see it split up, it is canonically the same show.
kipperonthefloor
07:43:50 AM Sep 22nd 2010
edited by kipperonthefloor
How about just put it in Alphabetical folders?
OldManHoOh
08:37:59 AM Sep 22nd 2010
Hmm, maybe. I don't think the page itself needs splitting.

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Michael
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06:37:23 PM Apr 3rd 2010
Is there a trope for the fact that there was a lot of hype surrounding Amy's police uniform which turns out to have just been a costume she threw on to intimidate the strange man who broke into her house?
Ayries
05:11:22 AM Apr 4th 2010
I... feel like there should be, but I don't think there is?
94.2.177.192
07:12:44 AM Apr 4th 2010
Fanservice?
74.77.238.3
07:22:42 PM Apr 12th 2010
Fair Cop
Ayries
06:31:45 AM Apr 17th 2010
Nah, that's for actual cops. This is for someone who isn't...

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TheOneWhoTropes
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06:37:52 PM Apr 4th 2010
Unofficially, Nine has been played by 3 people - An American in a bootleg film (when they thought it would never restart), Christopher Eccleston, and Richard E. Grant in one of the Flash videos on the BBC website.
94.2.177.192
03:19:58 PM Apr 5th 2010
edited by 94.2.212.203
...and Rowan Atkinson in "The Curse Of Fatal Death", the 1999 Comic Relief special, written by one Steven Moffat. Two BBC-licensed, non-canon appearances and Chris.
MrCleaverhook
07:51:23 AM Apr 15th 2010
American bootleg? I've never heard of this, got any more info on that?
robinalaska
05:05:52 PM Apr 16th 2010
I don't know about any specific American bootleg (as far as I can tell there were dozens of fanfilms made during the wilderness years), but there was an addition ninth Doctor in the form of Rowan Atkinson in Stephen Moffat's 1999 Children of Need sketch, Curse of the Fatal Death. In this same story there were also a tenth Doctor played by Richard E. Grant (before Scream of the Shalka), an eleventh by Jim Broadbent, a twelfth by Hugh Grant, and a thirteenth by Joanna Lumley. Yes, a woman.
90.221.125.63
01:45:33 PM Apr 17th 2010
edited by 90.221.125.63
And of course, Eccleston IS official. Or was that just a slip of the tongue?
PurpleBouncyBall
12:35:35 PM Aug 26th 2010
No, unofficially there were three (or four or whatever) Ninth Doctors. Officially, there's one. All depends on your point of view. Lots of things work that way.

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TheOneWhoTropes
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06:58:04 PM Apr 4th 2010
Is there a time traveller or time travel effect in place on the website? "Vampires of Venice" has not been on telly yet! ("The Eleventh Hour" has and I just realised it's a Stealth Pun.)
voodoochild
07:24:47 PM Apr 4th 2010
And none of the entries for it are spoiler-cut! Give away the plot if you must, but some of us in other parts of the world will not be seeing it for a while.
MsShaw
07:27:20 PM Apr 4th 2010
Clips of it have been released via publicity shows and naturally the internet shortly after.
JurassicMosquito
05:33:39 AM Apr 17th 2010
Yeah, "Vampires of Venice" hasn't even aired in the UK at the time of this writing and won't for a few weeks. Unless the folks troping on it are BBC insiders, or it's being released sooner in countries outside of the UK than it is in its own home nation (which I strongly doubt), then the tropes on it are semi-educated guesses made based on teasers and trailers.
BLOODPOUCH
08:51:04 PM Apr 21st 2010
A 1:30 minute excerpt of the episode was released online.
thetroper
05:52:12 PM May 31st 2010
in america, the episodes air 1 episode after the one airing in britan.
thetroper
08:15:02 AM Jun 3rd 2010
So, since I'm in America, I've already seen "Cold Blood."

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90.221.125.63
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01:47:03 PM Apr 17th 2010
edited by 94.8.126.205
Would the Peter Cushing movies count as Non Serial Movie?
VorelLaraek
02:11:58 PM Nov 2nd 2010
Not really. They take the basic concept in another direction, contradicting most prior established facts - not just later ones. Non Serial Movies aren't canon, but could be (until the next episode airs, at least). The Cushing movies aren't even that.

There probably is a trope they fit into, though.
Gizensha
03:48:52 AM Apr 22nd 2011
edited by Gizensha
They're possibly Pragmatic Adaptations of the first two Dalek serials (rather than the series as a whole)

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Anaheyla
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09:15:24 PM May 23rd 2010
edited by Anaheyla
So, I'm new to the series, having only seen two episodes, "Blink" and "The Girl In The Fireplace" and have noticed a recurring phrase(or pseudophrase)

The Doctor says something and then corrects himself twice, e.g. "Nah there's nothing here, WELL, nothing dangerous, WELL, nothing that dangerous." and "I've got something going on right now, WELL, four things, WELL, four things and a lizard." with a slightly drawn out emphasis on well.

Is this a recurring tendency? And if so why is it not listed as one of his catchphrases and/or a Running Gag. :hmm
Hadri
12:14:33 AM May 24th 2010
They're both consistent with David Tennant's sometimes unusual way of phrasing things. I can't recal any other examples in particular, but I can tell you that both those episodes were written by the same writer.

In any case, if we listed everything odd David Tennant did or said more than once during his run we'd be here all week.
Generality
04:28:43 PM May 24th 2010
He does it well in "The Unicorn and the Wasp" with regard to Agatha Christie: "You fool me every time. WELL, most of the time, WELL, once or twice, WELL, once. But it was a good once." Ten has a habit of Verbal Backspacing, especially in situations where he needs to talk fast. More a Verbal Tic than a real catch phrase (and he has TONS of those).
Gizensha
03:51:33 AM Apr 22nd 2011
Yeah, no more a catchphrase than Mc Gann's Doctor's tendency of repeating small words multiple times when in a hurry and/or panicing. "Nononononono!" from the television movie stands out, but the books and comics both picked up on that, and he continued it in the audios.

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thetroper
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07:23:53 PM May 25th 2010
Yeah I hadn't seen Matt Smith before, looking at the photo here was my first time looking st him, and I was like "Wow he looks like a freak." But I was so wrong.
Hadri
07:46:06 PM May 25th 2010
His early look was pretty bad. It's very good that they went with something a lot more stylish.
thetroper
05:39:58 PM May 26th 2010
i guess so :)
Gizensha
03:53:03 AM Apr 22nd 2011
Given what he seems to wear in real life, and that he basically picked his own costume, we're lucky we didn't wind up with something as hideous as Six's technicoloured nightmare coat...

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94.9.139.139
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05:34:37 PM May 29th 2010
edited by 94.9.139.139
Was "The Hungry Earth" and "Cold Blood" really an Idiot Plot?
Hadri
08:07:08 PM May 29th 2010
The contrivances weren't all the fault of the characters being stupid , but you could argue that.
thetroper
05:52:40 PM May 31st 2010
Well...
thetroper
08:19:31 AM Jun 3rd 2010
I agree with Hardi, but what ____ did was pretty stupid. ;)
94.9.139.139
08:51:31 AM Jun 3rd 2010
I don't get it. Are you guys speaking English?
94.9.139.139
02:01:30 PM Jun 3rd 2010
edited by 94.9.139.139
All I can very vaguely gather from that is that Ambrose was holding the Idiot Ball, maybe? I don't know, but that's still not justification for Idiot Plot (which applies to the whole cast).

Edited for spoilers.
Generality
02:45:36 PM Jun 3rd 2010
No spoilers for us Americans who haven't seen these episodes yet (The American airing is about three weeks behind).
thetroper
06:28:41 PM Jun 6th 2010
I AM American! I live in California!!!!

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thetroper
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09:28:46 PM Jun 13th 2010
YES!!!!11! SOMEONE Finally changed the image of Matt Smith thxxx!!!

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Robotech_Master
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11:33:58 PM Jun 19th 2010
edited by Robotech_Master
The "parking brake" thing was just a joke! Every other TARDIS seen in the show made that sound, as did the Doctor's TARDIS when River piloted it again (or previously) in "The Pandorica Opens". She can make it materialize without making the sound, yes, but I suspect it's more likely she's just that good than that the Doctor (and every other Time Lord to pilot a TARDIS) is just that bad.
Hadri
11:45:00 PM Jun 19th 2010
River flying the TARDIS resulted in the universe being destroyed yesterday.

Giving the gag some canonocity after all.
Gizensha
03:55:06 AM Apr 22nd 2011
To be fair, it's not just the sound... The Doctor is very, very bad at getting the TARDIS to where he wants it.

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67.217.15.170
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11:43:25 PM Jun 21st 2010
Well if we're not going to get a better picture for all the Doctors other than "guys in squares on default white graphics program background", can we at least get an official photo for Matt Smith as the 11th Doctor?
Hadri
12:07:40 AM Jun 22nd 2010
I do think it's a little simple but it's also pretty effective. It is important that this page maintains a focus on the show as a whole rather than just the current series. The image adds to that.
67.217.15.170
08:54:15 AM Jun 23rd 2010
Alright. 11th Doc has a better picture now.

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94.9.179.3
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01:20:49 AM Jun 22nd 2010
edited by 94.9.179.3
Changed lines 680 from:
  • Reset Button: Used far too often in the newer seasons, though it has sometimes been used to tell stories that otherwise would not fit into the Doctor Who format ("Turn Left" and "Last of the Time Lords").
    • Hm. Only one other occasion in the new series springs to mind ("Father's Day") although Margaret Slitheen and Donna both get their own personal Reset Buttons.
to:
  • Reset Button: Sometimes used to tell stories that otherwise would not fit into the Doctor Who format ("Turn Left" and "Last of the Time Lords").
    • "Father's Day" is another use and Margaret Slitheen and Donna both get their own personal Reset Buttons.

Seriously? Are Reset Buttons used that often? You could argue for some of the endings being Dei Ex Machini (or whatever the plural for Deus Ex Machina is), but hardly Reset Button.
Hadri
01:28:52 AM Jun 22nd 2010
RTD wasnt as obnoxious about reset buttons as later season of Star Trek could be, but it was used in every season finale except the first.

...however I don't really see how 'Turn Left' and 'The Last of the Time Lords' don't fit the format of the show. Perhaps the entry should be rewritten completely?

Dei ex machinae, fyi.
94.9.179.3
03:34:23 AM Jun 22nd 2010
edited by 94.9.179.3
No, it wasn't. That's my point. Only Last of the Time Lords (and in a very localised extent Journey's End If the cracks in time have undone it, it took eight episodes (Victory of the Daleks) for that to be apparent. And of course that's been reversed as of "The Big Bang" so...) counts. Doomsday, Journey's End (though the hand has existed since The Christmas Invasion and has been in the Doctor's possession since Utopia, and the Doctor Donna was loosely hinted at in Planet of the Ood, not to mention Rose's enigmatic statements of calling Donna "special") and The End of Time could arguably be called Dei ex machinae though.

Doomsday is not a reset button especially because the Doctor is alone (and still pining for Rose well into series 3), Torchwood, a then-128-year-old organisation is in tatters, and now only has Torchwood Three (at the time being Jack, Owen, Toshiko and Susie) left and hundreds, if not thousands of people on the ground are dead.
Hadri
04:29:20 AM Jun 22nd 2010
edited by Hadri
Okay, well, part of the problem is that Reset Button is defined more narrowly than it is in common usage - thus the disappointment of fans when Davies would write a finale with huge consequences that get undone by the end of the episode.

Must a Reset Button erase all changes to the status quo? For instance the Daleks killed a lot of people on Earth in the Stolen Earth, but this is treated mostly as irrelevant by the series after this, and the planets are returned to their proper places. Is that, by itself, still not a Reset Button?

Also, in the End of Time, Rassilon pressed the Reset Button on the Master's "become everyone on Earth" plan as soon as he showed up. So it definitely occurs in that episode, Rassilon isn't really a Deus ex Machina himself.

However, I'm not disagreeing with you, but I definitely am saying that I dont like either version of the entry. I think it needs more clarity.
Hadri
06:03:43 PM Jun 26th 2010
Well, inevitable spoilers for the finale.

Shooting the Pandorica into the exploding TARDIS re-creating the universe sure seems like a reset button to me.
94.9.179.3
05:48:41 PM Jun 27th 2010
edited by 94.9.179.3
Yeah, about that. This was written before "The Big Bang" aired. So currently I count series 3 and 5 (and probably The End of Time) as Reset Buttons, series 4 as very borderline, and series 1 and 2 not at all.

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thetroper
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06:54:20 AM Jun 22nd 2010
Is there anyway to change the photo on themain page? I was thinking i would photoshop it ans put a huge crrack in it and change the text to silnece will fall....:)

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stardust_rain
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03:48:47 AM Jul 15th 2010
Should we add a Doctor Who subsection to the Foe Yay page? The examples are getting rather long. I posted there, but got no reply.

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Hawkeye^_^
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09:31:38 AM Jul 19th 2010
I've looked around and haven't found anything about this on the main page. Am I incorrect in thinking that it's inconsistent with what else we know of Cybermen for there to be a complete skull inside of one's head? I thought they just had brains in there.
Anaheyla
04:48:52 PM Jul 19th 2010
edited by Anaheyla
I asked that question when the episode first aired. It was suggested that that particular Cyberman was a rushjob, churned out because there wasn't time for a complete Cyberfication for whatever reason.

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93.232.187.237
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08:10:56 AM Aug 5th 2010
I think it would be nice if the introduction already included a rough outline of what the show is actually about for those of us who don't know it. It's a bit tedious to collect information from characters and concepts throughout the page. One or two sentences of that would in my opinion be more important than an 18 month hiatus or similar stuff.
OldManHoOh
08:35:44 AM Aug 5th 2010
I see what you mean. Outside of the sections, the only really part that summarises what the show is about is

"Since its debut on 23 November 1963 on BBC television, the British scifi series Doctor Who (...) takes place in and established the Whoniverse, which has a very loose and lax continuity, even discounting the Doctor Who Expanded Universe."

Not sure how to approach it myself though.
vaguedisclaimer
02:39:21 PM Aug 31st 2010
Hope the addition does it for you.

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OldManHoOh
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02:08:28 PM Sep 1st 2010
If no-one objects, I think I'm going to remove the part of the lead which has two paragraphs on the technicalities of season titling and definition.
vaguedisclaimer
04:24:04 PM Sep 1st 2010
Bung 'em into Just Bug Me.
OldManHoOh
04:38:48 PM Sep 1st 2010
I don't think production titling belongs in It Just Bugs Me.

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SomeGuy
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02:33:22 PM Sep 1st 2010
All right, this page is too much. It's insanely long, nigh-incomprehensible, and uses some very unusual wiki mark-up not seen elesewhere on the site. Ironically, I can't even fix it because I know little about the finer points of Doctor Who and this page has done squat to educate me.

Given my ignorance, I'd like to hear some suggestions for improvements, as I've no good ideas of how to proceed.
vaguedisclaimer
04:22:06 PM Sep 1st 2010
Trouble is the show has been running for the fat end of 50 years, the lead character has changed actor - and characteristics - eleven times to date and the companions (effectively second lead and as important to the canon as the lead) many times more. The story has ranged over all of space and time (literally from the beginning to the end of the universe), introduced two major British cultural icons as well as several lesser ones - and encompassed almost any form of televisual story telling you can think of.

It is a show a huge and labyrinthine history - and the namer for 22 tropes - and although I'm quite certain a good copy edit would shorten it a fair bit, in terms of key details it really hasn't gone too far.

I think the mistake was perhaps not including the premise in the intro until yesterday, when I added it. Because the premise is really very simple. But the rest just isn't.

I know - not that helpful, but I've looked at it a few times and there really isn't a section that could be removed and the page still be considered complete by those of us who saw the very first episode and have been fans ever since.
SomeGuy
07:54:43 PM Sep 1st 2010
Oh, don't be so apologetic- that's much more helpful than what I've gotten from Trope Repair Shop on this.

If I look at this more closely, the first five paragraphs as of this writing are fine, and could probably stand slight rewrites, but nothing major. It's what comes after that's confusing. We've got a couple of paragraphs about how the show has puzzling numbering, and about a dozen special paragraphs that so far as I can tell are trope example essays.

To get anywhere, it might behoove us if the Doctor Who fans could explain why so much of this information needs to be in the description. Why do we need to know right off the bat that series 4 uses weird numbering? What's with the "significant characters and concepts" section? Most of those are just tropes. No other page that I'm aware of uses special formatting to call attention to "important" examples.

I'll grant I don't speak for everyone, but a lot of this is off-putting. It makes the page look longer than it actually is and consequently makes me not want to read the page. In my opinion a lot of this stuff needs to be reorganized for the aesthetics to be any good here.
vaguedisclaimer
07:52:25 AM Sep 3rd 2010
Well, everything will always benefit from a good copy edit, but good copy edit is hard and takes time (which is why there is so much over-written drivel on Wikipedia).

The challenge is to find a way that is respectful of other's work (including their sense of humour), while trimming the cruft.

The ep number paras can go, but they are a fanboy-ish bone to chew so it would be a shame to lose them completely (a meta entry on Just Bugs Me strikes me as harmless enough).

But it does get tricky. Missing Episodes are very important to Who's history - but I doubt we need listings of other shows affected (they are dealt with elsewhere): that William Harnell's last episode is lost and you can win a damned Dalek if you ever find it: that matters.

In the interest of humour I'd almost be minded to remove the entire trope list and replace it "All of 'Em", but that might be a tad controversial.

Brickie
03:24:49 PM Nov 29th 2010
I still think the page is very very long and confusing for new readers, and I'm wondering if there's some there that can be cut out and readers redirected to the pages on the Other Wiki for more detail.

I'm willing to have a crack at a copyedit, but is there any sort of Sandbox feature around the site where I can throw something out and get feedback without actually changing the page as is?

On Wikipedia, I can do it in my User Space and direct people to look there...
OldManHoOh
03:26:08 PM Nov 29th 2010
edited by OldManHoOh
Sort of. Most people would probably just go Sandbox.Doctor Who, I think.

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philipw
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10:11:03 AM Nov 18th 2010
Any advise on where to start?

Exactly What It Says On The Tin - I've never watched Doctor Who before, and don't want to get spoilered by the too detailed page description, so what season is the best season to start with? The very first episode ever, the first one with the current doctor, the first episode from the current/last season, some other place to start?

Thanks in advance.
SilentDave
10:35:38 AM Nov 18th 2010
I wouldn't start from the very first episode. The show's been going far too long.

My advice is to start with the first 2005 revival episode, with the ninth doctor, Christopher Eccleston. It's called "Rose". Things will still makes sense. They'd have to for it to work, since it was the first episode after a long hiatus.

Enjoy! I'm sure you'll love the show!
Hadri
10:41:11 AM Nov 18th 2010
edited by Hadri
There's a graphic to help with this:

i.imgur.com/mZYW5

I also recommend Rose. By the time you catch up to the current series, you'll be a fan. You'll also be better able to appreciate the pre-modern series, which are very unlike a modern TV Show and harder to break into.
La_Ninje
05:30:18 PM Nov 18th 2010
I recommand to start at season 31.

Far too long to start from An Unearthly Child and the production values make it hard to step in for a 00's viewer starting during the "classic" era.

The episode that really got me started is The Eleventh Hour. Then I watched the RTD era. During 9 and 10's run it is a truly mediocre series with (at most) 3 great episodes per season and the rest ranges from So Bad Its Horrible (Fear Her, Aliens Of London/World War Three, the one with Simon Pegg, Voyage of the damned, Season 30 Finale two parter) to So Okay Its Average.

Had I started with Rose, I'd have stopped 2 minutes in.
philipw
02:52:11 PM Nov 29th 2010
Okay, thank you. I'll start at series 1.
OldManHoOh
03:03:19 PM Nov 29th 2010
So Bad It's Horrible has fallen into So Bad It's Horrible Trope Decay.

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MetaKitty2010
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07:13:18 PM Nov 18th 2010
Not sure if this goes here, but does anyone know where to watch Dr. Who online? I've never seen it before. It sounds interesting but I'm clueless about where to watch it. Thanks in advance!
Hadri
09:15:25 PM Nov 18th 2010
I'm not going to just tell you where to watch it illegally. You'll have to find it on your own (it's not hard).

Alternatively, netflix has the first five years of the revival online, whcih you'll get better quality for.
MetaKitty2010
03:56:48 PM Nov 19th 2010
edited by MetaKitty2010
Actually it is very hard to find a decent site to watch it on, otherwise I wouldn't asking where to find it. I never said anything about watching it illegally, I was only asking if there was a site (like an official website or something) that had back episodes on it. But I'll probably just order a box-set of it.
Hadri
04:44:00 PM Nov 19th 2010
edited by Hadri
Believe me, there is at least one site that streams every episode plus every episode of the spinoffs and is not at all hard to find.

If you can afford a box set, do yourself a favor and get a netflix account instead.

The BBC itself hosts the episodes sometimes, but for stupid reasons that I don't understand, the content is blocked outside the UK. So you're probably down to streaming/downloading them illegally, or renting them in some way, or buying them, whichever you prefer. I'm not aware of any site that streams them legally for free at the moment, probably for aforementioned UK copy protection.
MetaKitty2010
04:06:31 PM Nov 21st 2010
Yeah the BBC doesn't show in my country either so I'll go with the netflix plan. Thanks!
Brickie
02:59:51 PM Nov 29th 2010
The reason the BBC website is blocked outside the UK, by the way, is probably because of how the BBC works. The programming is paid for not by advertising (which is actively forbidden on the BBC), but by me, and millions of other Britons, paying a fee for a "license" to watch television. It's compulsory if you own a TV set, not a subscription model like cable or satellite.

So, a decision was made that British license-fee payers pay for the programme, they get to watch it free and everyone else can buy the box-set or wait for their own TV network to buy the show. And I have to say, as one of said license-fee payers, good on them.
75.221.198.212
08:18:03 PM Jan 18th 2011
Yes, but why not try to market the licenses outside the UK, and just have some sort of Log-on for the site? I would buy it.
Hadri
12:58:11 AM Jan 19th 2011
You would? piracy is so easy that not many people would. The BBC may need to address this someday, because it's not like we all have to wait for the tapes to be shipped overseas anymore.
Gizensha
04:06:25 AM Apr 22nd 2011
I believe the BBC are looking into implementing an international iPlayer, which I imagine will either be on a subscription model or a $1 an episode style model...

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OldManHoOh
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10:13:40 AM Jan 4th 2011
Just so I understand, "Rule of Ice Hot" is a reference to that star in "Amy's Choice". Is that right? If not, then what's it referencing?
john_e
03:24:30 PM Apr 5th 2011
The slang in "Paradise Towers".

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AcrossTheStars
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07:11:20 PM Jan 17th 2011
Can we stop the back-and-forth on the "Trust Me Im A Doctor" pothole on the caption? It's stupid and it's an Incredibly Lame Pun. Plus, it spams watchlists. LEAVE IT. It doesn't need to be there.

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Hadri
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02:26:52 PM Jan 19th 2011
We'd better propose a new caption. One that won't get vandalized and edit warred all the time. There really should be something, I'm just not sure what. Any ideas?
AcrossTheStars
03:38:14 PM Jan 19th 2011
The problem is, there doesn't seem to be any one line that epitomizes the show itself (unless, of course, it's "Run!") The Doctor's incarnations all have different catchphrases. But then, my knowledge of Classic Who is extremely sketchy and the only series I know in-depth is Christopher Eccleston's.

What we need is that one sentence or phrase that just says "Doctor Who." And we can't use "Vworp Vworp Vworp!" as a caption (if only!)
Generality
06:49:21 PM Jan 19th 2011
How 'bout just no caption then? Or is that too boring?
Hadri
07:06:54 PM Jan 19th 2011
Having no caption both lacks context where context is needed and also encourages tropers to fill the space with something stupid that they think is clever (or at least revert the deleted one, which has happened already). We should put something there that's hard to mess with.
AcrossTheStars
07:41:41 PM Jan 19th 2011
Don't Ask, Just Run?

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SpiritOfSahara
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06:46:52 AM Mar 6th 2011
It seems all the links on the recap pages to online episodes with (at least) the first Doctor aren't working anymore. They used to go to a great page that collected pretty much everything, but it was shut down a few months ago. Does anyone have a replacement of some kind?

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Hadri
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02:50:27 PM Apr 5th 2011
Re: page quotes

I'm putting the old one back for now. I'd just as soon have no page quote at all, because less is more and I don't see how that kind of thing is necessary.

People keep coming in here and adding or changing the page quotes. It gets on my nerves, which is why I'd like us to try and stick to one. The Donna quote has been there for some time and there was some consensus on it awhile back. I like it because it is short, succinct, and funny. It's not that I don't like the immensely quotable snippet from Mr. Gaiman, I do, but it's long and too meta for me. If we quote anything we should be quoting from the show.
occono
03:09:09 PM Apr 5th 2011
Hmm, Talk pages never appear on my watchlist anymore so I forget to use them.....anyway, I still vote for the new quote, but I get your points.
OldManHoOh
03:10:10 PM Apr 5th 2011
edited by OldManHoOh
Try dropping and readding watches.

...which I actually forgot to do for this page myself. D'oh.

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SpiritOfSahara
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02:36:41 AM Apr 25th 2011
edited by SpiritOfSahara
Okay, I have no idea where to add this, so I'm asking here for advice.

I was just browsing BBC's Doctor Who homepage and read a bit about The Impossible Astronaut on it's own episode page, when I found a code in the section named "the fourth dimension".

There are some words that are in cursive - and if you put them together you get all the secrets you seek can be found here on the Webb.

So, um, I'm kinda blown away by this. Comments? Where can I add this factoid here on tvtropes?
TwinBird
02:41:52 AM Apr 25th 2011
...Webb?
SpiritOfSahara
02:45:27 AM Apr 25th 2011
edited by SpiritOfSahara
The cursive word in question was a surname. I think they just mean "web" as in the homepage or the internet.
SpiritOfSahara
03:24:03 AM Apr 25th 2011
Done a little research now.

For your viewing pleasure. Make of it what you like.

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OldManHoOh
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01:30:54 PM Apr 30th 2011
Is Music of the Spheres considered canon? It talks to the Proms audience, so I'd assume it wasn't.
josephripken
10:35:38 PM May 3rd 2011
Yes, it is canonical. It takes place after "journey's End" and before "The Next Doctor."

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nukeguy04
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05:49:50 PM May 25th 2011
I added Moment of Awesome to the list but I'm not good at wiki things so I'm not sure how to make it a link, or add examples. I don't want to add any and not have spoilers hidden, but I was thinking about the end of Day of The Moon anyone who has seen it knows what I am talking about.

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