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DaibhidC
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11:44:55 AM Mar 29th 2014
edited by 86.138.208.252
Pulled this:

  • Martian Manhunter was created to be one for the Black Orchid, a female superhero who had the same abilities as Manhunter but fell into disuse during the comic cold years. When a revival came about, they wanted to have more science and space themed heroes, and thus Martian Manhunter was created as a counterpart and legacy character of sorts to the Black Orchid.

This is simply incorrect. Martian Manhunter was created in 1955, Black Orchid in 1973. Moreover, I'm not really convinced they're that similar beyond having a grab-bag of powers that includes shapeshifting in the Martian's case, and Mistress of Disguise for the plantgirl.
Stoogebie
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10:46:23 PM Oct 15th 2013
Okay, can we delete the Badass<—->Action Girl example? It's implying that if a female character isn't an Action Girl, she can't be a badass. If you're among those who aren't seeing how that isn't a problem, consider this: Guile Hero, Badass Pacifist, and various forms of the Xanatos Gambit. Also, badass isn't a male-exclusive (or even mostly male) trope, so we should delete it altogether from this page. Action Hero worked better, if only in that it usually referred to males in action movies who kick ass.
Werebazs
02:28:05 PM Nov 15th 2013
edited by 84.0.143.82
I think you can delete it if you feel that strongly about it. However do not change it to "Action Hero <-> Action Girl", because the Action Hero trope page specifically states that it's not the Spear Counterpart of Action Girl. An Action Girl is simply a female badass of any kind. An Action Hero or Action Heroine on the other hand is someone who's answer for every problem is to puch it.
By the way, exactly what should be considered about Guile Hero, Badass Pacifist and the Xanatos Gambits? You know, if you try to make an argument by bringing up other examples, it wouldn't hurt to make an actual argument based on them.
MagBas
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11:51:12 AM Sep 1st 2013
edited by 216.99.32.45
The following examples are totally unrelated franchises:

MagBas
topic
04:10:19 AM Aug 30th 2013

the same thing to the Space Marine in Doom- and the two franchises(Halo and Metroid) are totally unrelated.
DaibhidC
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04:30:20 PM Apr 6th 2013
edited by DaibhidC
Is anyone else slightly baffled by this?
  • Played with in The Sarah Jane Adventures, a spinoff of Doctor Who. In the first episode, Sarah Jane acts exactly like the Doctor. After years of travelling with him, she's spent the last few decades very alone and very traumatized by being left behind by him, and she refuses to let new people into her life. By the end of the first episode, she decides to adopt a lost child, and subsequently regains her humanity and starts acting less like the Doctor again.

It seems to be saying that Sarah not letting new people into her life is Doctorish, and hanging out with younger people with whom she can share the wonders of the universe isn't. Which is ... very much not the case.
DaibhidC
05:39:43 AM Jan 14th 2014
Since no-one else argued either way on this, I've just changed it.
DaibhidC
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03:54:56 PM Jan 4th 2013
edited by DaibhidC
Removed this:

They're really not. One is about an organisation that may or may not actually wear black and almost certainly isn't entirely male. The other's about a significant female clothing choice.
Werebazs
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06:03:28 AM Jul 18th 2012
edited by Werebazs
Ok, are Boobs of Steel and Balls of Steel really counterparts of eachother? Based on their respective descriptions they have nothing to do with eachother:
  • Balls of Steel is a guy who's unaffected by Groin Attack for whatever reason, not about the strongest male of cast having the largest balls.
  • Similarly Boobs of Steel is when the phsysically strongest female character has the largest breast size on the cast, and not about a female who's immune to Breast Attack.

I think they should be removed from the list, since they're completely unrelated, and similar In Name Only.
Telcontar
moderator
06:41:25 AM Jul 18th 2012
Completely agree; removing. Balls of Steel can also apply to a female character.
Anonymonk
topic
10:54:36 AM Apr 12th 2012
And here I thought distaff counterpart was because they don't have a staff....
Stoogebie
10:42:25 PM Oct 15th 2013
If by staff, you mean penis, then yes, they do not have them. But that's not what the name means. It refers to the "distaff" symbol. (Details on the main page).
deltanine
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07:29:12 AM Feb 15th 2012
edited by deltanine
I would like to label Jo from Burst Angel as a Distaff Counterpart to Dante from Devil May Cry. They both weild twin handguns, wear red trenchcoats, and have silver hair.
SpookyMask
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07:41:07 AM Dec 24th 2011
edited by SpookyMask
Nevermind.
TheNoun
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11:06:04 AM Mar 18th 2011
If Spear Counterpart is now the same trope as this one, shouldn't it actually recieve a description too? Because all it has now is two sentences.
Scipio
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03:28:57 PM Dec 9th 2010
Why does Spear Counterpart redirect to Distaff? Aren't they technically opposites, and shouldn't Spear have its own page? Or am I missing something?
maxwellsilver
03:12:35 PM Aug 16th 2012
Maybe there should be a Trope Repair Shop opened up here to start a new trope.
Telcontar
moderator
02:52:44 AM Aug 17th 2012
It would be an exact duplicate page since they're inversions of each other. No need.
202.156.11.252
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06:23:30 AM Jun 18th 2010
It's supposed to be a spinning wheel? I always thought the male and female symbols were like a simplified representation of the reproductive organs(with the 2 "arms" of the Holy Hand Grenade that is the female symbol representing the Fallopian tubes or similar.)
94.214.8.68
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04:52:23 AM Mar 11th 2010
edited by 94.214.8.68
This troper has recently received a copy of 'the Book of Knights and Ladies' for the Pendragon RPG, which gives expanded character creation rules. Differing character templates are given for males and females of various pseudo-historical cultures. How is the Cymric culture (which is prevalent to the setting) defined? By giving the males the special skill Spear Expertise and females Distaff. SRSLY.
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