Main Disney Animated Canon Discussion

NolanJBurke

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08:55:00 AM Oct 5th 2010
edited by Vulchak

Okay, just for the sake of clarification here: this page does NOT list sequels, as they're not really canon, correct? If so, we should probably add a note about that to the main page.

OldManHoOh

10:30:25 AM Oct 5th 2010

As far as I can tell, The Enchanted Christmas is the only sequel with a page. That said, it definitely isn't part of the canon.

DragonQuestZ

12:29:12 PM Oct 6th 2010
edited by DragonQuestZ

Why do you all assume this is the same as Canon? Just because it has that in the name does not mean this list has some weird rules for inclusion that other indexes don't follow.

Furthermore, you're acting like I'm just singling this sequel out for inclusion, and neglecting the others. How about the other sequels might not have their own pages yet? How about when they do, they would be included as well?

Finally, whether or not they are any good, or you want to forget them, is irrelevant.

The film is a Disney film, subpar or not, and thus should be included unless proven otherwise, NOT have to prove it's worthy of inclusion. In case you forgot, There Is No Such Thing As Notability, and that is a correct use, since I'm applying it to a work.

OldManHoOh

12:34:49 PM Oct 6th 2010

To my knowledge, the feature numbering only counts those released in cinemas, not anything exclusive to home video. They're related to Beauty and the Beast, but it's not what the definition of the Canon is.

DragonQuestZ

04:14:45 PM Oct 6th 2010
edited by DragonQuestZ

Where did this "Canon" definition come from about this page specifically? Plus if it's not inclusive of all Disney works, why is it an index, when we should have an index for all Disney films?

NolanJBurke

11:28:08 AM Oct 10th 2010

The fact is that this wiki assigns numbers to each entry in Disney Animated Canon; Beauty and the Beast is number 30, Aladdin is number 31. Sticking sequels in between them on the list here is confusing and has the potential to mess up that entire system.

Moreover, both The Other Wiki and the Disney Wiki have categories for 'canon animated features' in Disney, neither of which include any of the sequels. No, I think sequels need to stay off this page.

DragonQuestZ

05:22:05 PM Oct 10th 2010
edited by DragonQuestZ

Well finally, I got a good reason.

But what about a section for sequels, so that the numbering doesn't bother them?

Also, this uses bullet points, not the number bullets, which would not be screwed up by that.

NolanJBurke

11:32:13 PM Oct 10th 2010
edited by Vulchak

Okay, a seperate section for sequels, then. If you insist.

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411314

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08:20:30 PM Oct 21st 2010

Why is Humans Are Bastards listed as a trope on this page? How do animated Disney movies paint humanity in a negative light?

toongirl

05:32:49 PM Nov 2nd 2010

I think it is referring to King Triton's attitude toward humans from the Little Mermaid. At the end of the movie, he finally gave Ariel away to Eric accepted Eric as his son-in-law.

411314

09:36:19 PM Nov 6th 2010

But shouldn't that be listed only on Mermaid's page, then, not on the page for the whole cannon? Should I remove it?

toongirl

12:11:59 AM Nov 21st 2010

Yes, put it on the Little Mermaid's page.

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punchy

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01:36:30 PM Dec 12th 2010

I'm thinking of adding a Running Gag entry on how, during production, the name of every villain's horse since the renaissance is "Snowball". This would include Shan Yu's horse, the horses pulling Ratcliffe's carriage in Pocahontas, Jafar's horse, Gaston's horse, and Frollo's horse. Would it count as a running gag if it's never mentioned in the films?

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411314

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11:17:51 AM Jun 21st 2011
edited by 411314

Why does the page claim that the canon uses Black And Gray Morality and Brains Evil Brawn Good? I can't think of any examples of either. May I remove those?

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Gatchaman432

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03:15:25 AM Oct 21st 2011

Which of the Disney Animated Canon films doesn't contain a Disney Princess that were made from the Dark Age Of Animation and Renaissance Age Of Animation? I can think of The Sword In The Stone, The Jungle Book, The Aristocats, The Rescuers (and its sequel), The Fox And The Hound, The Great Mouse Detective, Oliver And Company, The Lion King, Hercules, Dinosaur, The Emperors New Groove, Atlantis The Lost Empire, Lilo And Stitch, Treasure Planet, Brother Bear, and Tarzan. If there's anything I missed, please help me.

GazBevMoo

04:55:25 PM Oct 21st 2011

What are you talking about? The early 2000s stuff is from after the 90s renaissance, and no princesses are from the dark age. There are only ten princesses at all, these are them: Golden Era:

Snow White 1937

Cinderella 1950

Aurora (Sleeping Beauty) 1959

Renaissance Era:

Ariel (The Little Mermaid) 1989

Belle (Beauty And The Beast) 1991

Jasmine (Aladdin) 1992

Pocahontas 1995

Mulan (Only official Disney Princess to not actually be a princess at all) 1998

Come Back Era:

Tiana (The Princess And The Frog) 2009

Rapunzel (Tangled) 2010.