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09:29:52 AM Oct 2nd 2017
Would Asian Drivers count here or on Dead Horse Trope? If it does count, here's an example: "While it's too much to say that anti-Asian sentiment is fully gone, the stigma that Asians are bad at driving, alongside the belief that it is caused by eye size, are largely gone from the media. In fact, if records are to go by, most drivers of Asian descent are actually shown to be the exact opposite of this."
10:00:26 AM Oct 2nd 2017
I don't think either. It's still a prevalent joke and stereotype.
06:22:52 PM Mar 11th 2017
edited by TristanJeremiah
Can someone add Nice Guys Finish Last? My kindle keeps blanking out when I try to edit this page. I think it's discredited because in recent years, "Girls only like asshole spouses" has been viewed as incredibly sexist, and if this trope shows up the "Nice Guy" in question is delusional and not really nice at all
02:39:54 PM Apr 5th 2017
Never mind, i got it
12:44:57 AM Jan 12th 2017
I added something to the end of it, but I probably should've discussed it here first: Maybe they're getting subtle about it, but I do still play plenty of games with Floating Platforms. But maybe that's because I mainly play platformers, and of those, I'm most often playing a Super Mario game or a Sonic the Hedgehog game, both of which still make heavy use of floating platforms to this day.

Is this something specific to certain genres and/or certain regions of the world where they're produced? In particular, I see this a lot for 2-D platformers, even a lot of the recent indie ones.
06:25:08 PM Mar 11th 2017
It was also in The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds, at one point.
05:40:35 PM Jul 22nd 2016
Shouldn't Rated M For Manly be an Undead Horse Trope? While it does face scrutiny, this hasn't stopped dozens of games from playing it straight and selling well and several movies and TV shows continue to play it straight. After all, manliness is a flexible topic and does not necessarily imply the explosive bravado of 80's action flicks the description implies.
06:30:09 PM Mar 11th 2017
It can be both discredited and a Dead Horse Trope
07:49:19 PM Nov 12th 2015
I think Totally Radical shouldn't be here. It's the unintentional invocation of discredited slang.

Yes, people are aware that they should avoid this... the thing is that avoiding it all the time will be impossible for all writers of all works.

This is one trope that I think isn't going away, as it can't really go away.
04:46:13 AM May 12th 2015
edited by jbillones
Star Trek Movie Curse should not be Discredited, as the _Galaxy Quest_ modification has held firm through both reboot films.
11:18:38 AM Apr 10th 2014
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Truth in Television example confusion watchlist (will add examples which appear to me to be on here because they are not Truth in Television, instead of being discredited):

Black Helicopter

Bermuda Triangle

I Broke a Nail

Cement Shoes
10:33:33 AM Oct 17th 2012
edited by VictorDamazio
I want to add this paragraph to the description:

"Sometimes, a trope is only discredited in specific kinds of media, but is accepted in others, due to a different audience or a different structure"

Example: Not Allowed to Grow Up, accepted in animations, comics and games, discredited in live-action media.
05:31:26 AM Oct 2nd 2012
Henpecked Husband is discredited because men can get divorced? What? This is a highly unrealistic and ignorant comment. Divorce typically means ruination for men, even if they initiate it and can prove the abusive nature of their spouses.
07:18:24 AM Aug 7th 2012
Why is Celibate Hero listed? I've seen a lot of media (at least a few, anyway) where the main character doesn't get involved in a relationship of any kind, either because Love Is a Weakness or just the outright possibility they're asexual. How is it a cliche?
09:37:31 PM Aug 27th 2012
Because celibacy is viewed as prudish. And no one likes a prude.
03:12:31 PM Oct 16th 2011
Diablo 3 is not a good example for "Real is Brown". Real is brown is where realistic games have oddly desaturated/browned-out colours. While Uncharted is a good example of a game having a full colour pallet and being realistic, Diablo 3's graphics are cartoonish, chunky and intentionally unrealistic, similar to Super Mario Galaxy or World of Warcraft

Mirrors edge would be a better example, being brightly colourful but realistic
07:52:47 AM Oct 22nd 2010
Shouldn't "The Chosen One" be on here?
04:40:33 AM Oct 29th 2010
People still use it. Sometimes they even do it in an interesting fashion. It's too broad a trope to be discredited.

And Ethnic Scrappy shouldn't be on here, as much as we'd like it to be.
11:57:57 PM Jul 20th 2011
"The Chosen One" is a lot more alive and well then the cut and paste note. I mean how many CSI episodes do you see white a cut and paste note? I've never seen one and I imagine if they did one in an episode they'd get a mountain of information and have dialog about how lousy a way it is to send a message in this day and age.
01:52:10 PM Jul 12th 2010
Why is "ANYTHING related to Santa Claus" listed?
12:14:41 PM Oct 19th 2010
I don't know. I moved it to Undead Horse Trope, because many tropes relating to Santa Claus still see active use every December, and not just in older works. And yes, these tropes have been parodied and subverted dozens of times, but they're not entirely discredited. So they belonged there instead on this list.
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