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protowizard Since: Jan, 2013
Nov 11th 2023 at 8:36:17 PM •••

As someone from the UK, this page feels very much written by Americans without much actual experience with UK culture.

A lot of examples on this page are *vastly* overstating how rude some words are in the UK, particularly bloody and bugger (when used as a noun, rather than a verb). A recent Ofcom study indicated that both are considered among the mildest curses and most people consider them OK to use around children: https://www.indy100.com/viral/british-swear-word-ranked-offensiveness-2659905092

I would honestly suggest removing instances of "bloody" and "bugger" on this page unless a creator was forced to make a change as a result.

Also worth noting that "f*g" and "f*ggot", while having other meanings in the UK, have also been used as slurs in the same manner as in the US for decades, so it is extremely unlikely that any British person using it is innocent of the knowledge that it is also used as hate speech.

https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/the-surprisingly-complex-legacy-of-brits-saying-bum-a-fag

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Metz77 Since: Jan, 2001
Jan 7th 2024 at 6:39:01 PM •••

"Bugger" is also a very mild slang term in the US, and many of the entries here using it seem more like Separated by a Common Language than this trope.

legendaryweredragon Since: Apr, 2013
Jun 6th 2021 at 4:29:20 PM •••

I recently read a news story about Marvel comics getting embarrassed because they introduced a new Filipino-American character but they accidently gave her a name that sounds like something inappropriate in Filipino/Tagalog.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 20th 2021 at 11:37:53 AM •••

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Needs Help, started by KarjamP on Oct 1st 2012 at 12:43:06 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 20th 2021 at 10:21:26 AM •••

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Needs Help, started by Twentington on Mar 4th 2015 at 4:52:57 AM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
HottoKenai Since: Aug, 2016
Apr 12th 2017 at 8:23:47 AM •••

Um, I'm Vietnamese and I've never head of the phrase ''du manh yiu". In fact, I don't think there's a phrase that directly translate to "Go fuck yourself". Can someone elaborate?

Aubren Since: Nov, 2015
May 2nd 2016 at 4:26:35 PM •••

Can we clean up the Real Life section? It's super long, and sometimes repeats the same things from a different angle (Like German/Norwegian use of shit: first example explains how they take from English television and apply that when they're tourists in America; then another example mentions the same thing then discusses the similarities between their own terms and how they screw up the offensive level thanks to that).

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hellsop Since: Jan, 2001
Jul 18th 2014 at 12:36:15 PM •••

I humbly suggest that the Bt VS entry that the two-finger salute Spike gives is entirely appropriate to his "dirty, evil, punk rock, and dead" character persona, and belongs in the "getting past the radar" category rather than "didn't do".

norsicnumber2nd Shall we talk about this Since: Sep, 2012
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Tabs MOD Since: Jan, 2001
Nov 18th 2011 at 10:17:33 AM •••

(The Sonic example under Video Games) Why is a gesture with thumb, index finger, and middle finger extended obscene?

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shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
Oct 8th 2012 at 7:40:39 PM •••

Because it's the British equavlent to flipping someone off.

norsicnumber2nd Since: Sep, 2012
Oct 14th 2012 at 9:16:12 AM •••

I don't know about the thumb. I know that biting your thumb is still as offensive as it was in Shakespeare's day, and the two-fingered salute is, as you say, 'flipping someone off'. So's the middle finger. It depends where your hand is for it to be obscene with the thumb also extended. If it's by the head then, yeah, don't do it.

TheMalignancy Did Nothing Wrong Since: Jun, 2010
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May 1st 2011 at 9:14:19 AM •••

Um, when has bloody ever been considered proper swearing? I live in England and to be honest it's more on the level of damn than an actual real swearword.

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Gizensha Since: Jan, 2001
May 12th 2011 at 12:41:24 PM •••

Abrieviation of 'By Our Lady,' apparently, which I believe meant it basically used to be referring to the Virgin Mary - Roughly equivalent to "Jesus Christ" as an explicative to Catholics, then, and one of those things that died as being a major slur when swearing went from being mostly religious oriented to mostly body part and action oriented, apparently, getting considered as mild as it did in part because no bugger remembers what it actually means. All IIRC, of course.

Certainly not since the 50s, at least, has it been considered a proper swear, though.

shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
Oct 8th 2012 at 7:23:33 PM •••

I've heard that it's derived from "blood of Christ", and used as a blasphemy similar to "G*d damn".

norsicnumber2nd Since: Sep, 2012
Oct 14th 2012 at 9:11:29 AM •••

Where in England you from. I know people that use bloody as a generic term. If I ever say it, though, it's as an adjective (e.g. The Bloody Tower) because something is, well, bloody. I always iterate that because, though not swearing, I don't think it's very polite and I know people that believe it is swearing and hearing it makes their blood boil. Also, Catholics are the main enforcers of never, ever, saying it. The country is now divided on whether it is a swear word or not, as some believe it is a swear word rooted in blasphemy and all those who curse it be condemned to Hell and some use it in casual conversation.

KeithTyler Since: Oct, 2011
Apr 11th 2012 at 11:04:42 AM •••

British inward V sign: I thought that by itself it was not offensive; in order to be properly delivered, the hand must be thrust upward. Often with raspberries. See also Are You Being Served where this was occasionally done. (Along with plenty of "my pussy" jokes. Clearly a post-watershed show!)

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norsicnumber2nd Since: Sep, 2012
Oct 14th 2012 at 9:07:39 AM •••

Don't try to be funny. It's very offensive in Britain, even just by itself.

MightyJAK Since: Dec, 2009
TheMalignancy Since: Jun, 2010
May 1st 2011 at 9:13:44 AM •••

Derp, wrong topic.

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Gizensha Since: Jan, 2001
May 12th 2011 at 12:51:44 PM •••

...Either God darn or Gosh damn, I think. Bloody is, well, bloody mild, but certainly an echelon above heck, more akin to the other bloody mild swears that no-one would think anything of outside of stuff aimed at under 7s such as damn and hell.

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