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jahman
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05:40:37 PM Jul 23rd 2015
edited by jahman
Just saying that somehow, it doesn't really look like Nia is truly gone for good, seen too much to put 100% of my heart into that fact.
MyFinalEdits
06:34:14 PM Jul 23rd 2015
From another wiki:

She tells Simon she loves him and he answers back saying that he will never forget her "till the end of the universe". Nia corrects him, stating it will never end and that's what they'd worked so hard for. She smiles as Simon says he loves her and she fades away. After [the] Anti-Spiral War Arc, Nia's memorial site is near the graves of Kamina and the members of Team Dai-Gurren who died fighting the Anti-Spiral. Her memorial has the flowers she held at the wedding along with a sword.

It looks like, at the very least, Simon is still unable to reunite with her, meaning that the trope is still played straight.
jahman
12:02:45 AM Jul 24th 2015
I get that, not asking to change anything, but what do you think? how do we explain the ring not fading or Kami.a or even the fact that she could hold on for a week or even longer before fading? I got to say I've seen too many crazy things in this series to say that everything is said in stone.
Larkmarn
06:05:01 AM Jul 24th 2015
Why would the ring fade?

And her being gone is actually kinda crucial. Not abusing spiral power to keep her back is actually a plot point, because the humans had demonstrated restraint with it.
jahman
10:39:48 AM Jul 24th 2015
Why did she and her dress disappear but her ring didn't if she is just a virtual human? And What I mean is that do you think there's a way for him to see her again without risking the universe?

Somehow, I hope at least when Simon's time in this life is done, he'll be asked to become a star by the god(s) of the spiral with nia's spirit joining him. just a fanfic ending idea.
stevengepp
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07:05:43 PM Dec 3rd 2012
Another literature example - Stephen King's 'Christine'.

yanqui9
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12:45:35 PM Jan 29th 2012
A Weird Random Thought on this trope:

I am not a fan of it. Its often done just to get cheap rise or reaction out of the audience. Often, there is no compelling story-driven reason for this to happen. For instance, in the Wonder Years. Everyone is shipping Kevin/Winnie and of course the creators know this so they never get together just for the sake of the final chord "sting" in the final episode, getting a cheap gut reaction from the audience. Personally, I think this one gets very close to Mind Screw

Sometimes its done well. While I think that Harry didn't end up with Hermione because JKR Rowling likes to screw around with convention, at least she did build it up over a number of volumes that Hermione was gravitating toward Ron. In Casablanca, Bergman's character was married to the guy so it would have been highly unusual and unacceptable for a woman to run off with another guy instead of her husband in 1942. (Ironically, Ingrid Bergman did just this and left her husband for an Italian director, getting blackballed by the US until the early 1960s).

I don't mind subversion either. Jack Burton's "nope" in Big Trouble in Little China almost had to be. The show was totally weird to begin with and Burton isn't the smartest or most clearly thinking light bulb in the bin.

But I have just seen too many groaners from this trope. Too many cheap shots. So, please, writers, if you are going to use it, make sure there is a compelling reason for it happening. Even if there isn't, start building it up beforehand. Just my worthless two cents and IMHO... this page looked a little bare with nothing on it anyway! :-)
DoktorvonEurotrash
01:35:21 AM Sep 26th 2012
I don't understand this at all. In real life, a lot of people never get the person they love (because the other person simply doesn't love them, or is already in love with someone else, or any other number of reasons). Surely fiction isn't obligated to provide the audience with wish-fulfilment.
Lordmakara
11:17:57 AM Jul 24th 2015
I agree with dok. besides, some people are just better off as friends. I would actually like to see a series that has someone admit their feelings, get turned down, and just remain friends with the person without ever being made into a huge deal.
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