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08:07:25 PM Nov 25th 2012
The following was moved over from YMMV, but some of it (Jane in particular) reads like it might just be speculation. Are all these people canonically stated/implied to have been abused?

  • Freudian Excuse: Many character's personalities could be explained by their upbringing and parental influences (or lack thereof):
    • Al was beaten regularly as a child (the beating he received because of the death of his epileptic younger brother would explain both his sympathy to the Reverend Smith and his aversion to William's funeral) and was sold to an orphanage run by a woman who turned out to be pimping the children in her care. His opening of the Gem and hiring of girls from that same orphanage is a twisted way of protecting them, the same way Trixie mentions Al being protective the same way about Jewel.
    • Joanie Stubbs and her sister were sexually abused by their father before being sold to Cy, which made Joanie extremely protective of women in similar situations. Joanie recognizes a similar pattern of childhood sexual abuse in Wolcott as the reason for his extremely disturbed sexual tendencies.
    • Similarly Jane being abused by her father would explain her terror of Al as he confronts her in the Doc's office, as well as her extreme attachment to Wild Bill as a substitute father figure.
    • Word of God is that Seth's anger against injustice comes from his being regularly beaten by his father. Which is also the reason he ran away from home when he was younger.
    • Contrast this to more 'normal' and well adjusted characters like Sol who seems to have had a good relationship with his father.
08:28:05 PM Nov 25th 2012
edited by TrollBrutal
Seems very detailed, I guess the editor* who wrote it originally didn't make all that stuff up, and it's all backstory given in exposition or implied, considering there's an explicit part where Word of God is brought up. I'm gonna look it up anyway. It's been a while since the last rewatch... Quick wikisearch on Jane gives

" Despite offering little history of herself, she mentions to Charlie Utter after she's confronted by Al that she hadn't been that scared since she was a child, possibly telling that men like Cy and Al remind her of her own father"

The more speculative parts can be cut or rewritten neutrally, or the whole thing simply moved to Abusive Parents with just the facts (I thought about it when I moved it)

  • update: The editor is a regular expander of the characters sheet, so I'd say it's legit info (argumentum ad verecundiam aside of course, just a hint)
09:05:00 PM Nov 25th 2012
edited by TrollBrutal
The other wiki and (so-so wiki) confirm what's written there except for Jane, only inferred or implied . Will check the background of the historical character.

Rewritten in a bit more factual way under Abusive Parents. Jane example is only implied ...I'm not a big fan of listing subtext in the main article as this is almost fridge logic but in this case it appears to be intentionally there, given the ongoing motif, only the viewer has to connect the dots. Could be cut anyway if it's too borderline / reading too much into it.
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