does Dr. Victor from Ben 10 count?
@#$%^&*()_! Why are there a bunch of symbols? 'Cuz I'm CRAAAZY!Is it just me or is it weird that 90% of the description is specific to tabletop gaming? From the description alone, it sounds like this is a Competitive Balance trope about how game-makers made up "losing your humanity" a drawback to cybernetic upgrades.
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.I have this to say with regard to the page quote: Losing humanity is not something munchkins are afraid of.
Hide / Show RepliesYeah, I think a better way to discourage Munchkins from abusing tech would be to introduce the danger of the tech malfunctioning, resulting in failures of varying severity. Critical fail, coolant leak. Cyborg arm becomes nonfunctional, and deals 1d6 damage to the flesh where it's touching. Pain is excruciating. The concern of their tech leaving them weaker than they were before it was installed if something goes wrong would leave them less likely to push the envelope too far unless they feel REALLY lucky. How does this idea seem to you folks?
I'm nobody, who are you? Are you nobody too?Chopped from Mass Effect as irrelevant to this trope:
- That being said, purely mechanical beings like the Geth seem to have their own sense of sublime consciousness, so it's less Cybernetics Eat Your Soul and more Reaper-Tech that eats your soul.
- The Geth, if they do not already have a soul, are certainly on their way to getting them. How do we know this? They actually miss and deeply care for their creators, who tried to kill them all. They understand fully why they did what they did, and hope that someday they'll realize they made a mistake and come back. They look forwards to this enough that the Quarian homeworld is both crawling with Geth...and has all of the old buildings intact for when the Quarians come back home granted, not ALL of them are like this, but most of them are.
- That being said, purely mechanical beings like the Geth seem to have their own sense of sublime consciousness, so it's less Cybernetics Eat Your Soul and more Reaper-Tech that eats your soul.
If I'm understanding this correctly, this trope really only applies to those who become less of a person/heartless because of cybernetic enhancements. If the character was already treated like crap and that served as a Freudian Excuse for why they hate people, added to already having something not quite right up there, it doesn't count, right?
I think the quote, while beautiful, is a bit long and abstract. How about replacing with the Mordin quote from ME 2 from the quotes page?
"You want to see how a human dies? At ramming speed." - Emily Wong.Is there a source in regards to the discussions on the palm implant in Real Life? I'm wondering what exactly is the basis for the religious right to call it Mark of the Beast.
Hide / Show RepliesSubversions and aversions crop up here way too often. There is enough room for another trope. Is there one already created?
Not sure if this notable enough to be included in the page itself (under Web Original) but Deviant Art creator Vumpalouska has his own setting that heavily features transhumanism. This Trope is invoked/discussed in multiple different ways.
Unmodified baseline humans are not actively persecuted but have been marginalized in most star systems due to their inability to compete with their transhuman "cousins." The fact that baseline human (Homo Sapiens Sapiens) can receive gene therapy to become O-human (Homo Sapiens Optimus) means that baseliners mostly exist in communes and enclaves in isolated habitats and sparesely populated planets/moons where they can pressure people to stay.
Fukuyama (named after real philosopher with a fierce anti-transhumanism stance is a colony world for "baseline" humans where all human modification is banned. Reasons for rejecting Transhumanism vary, some play this trope straight by citing religious reasons but it's also mentioned that even "the most common secular argument" heavily leans on this trope. "By modifying or enhancing themselves, Transhumans are actually diminishing their human condition and becoming something less than a Human."
Outsiders, a nomadic civilization, takes the complete opposite approach. Despite consisting of humans and human-descended forms of intelligence (Uplifted Animal mostly) they seem to treat rest of humanity with indifference at best. They have embraced tampering with their own minds to increase their intelligence and have abandoned all ethical constraints when it comes to research. These factors contribute to them actually being more technologically advanced than settled star nations. (Them being the most likely faction to gain access to any Ancient Artifact left behind by extinct/absent aliens might also have a large impact.)
If they have any morality left, it's definitely the Blue and Orange kind.
Brain/Computer Interface has it's own page but it's also mentioned in comments of Dictator Larris's personal flagship that while he has ability to directly connect his brain into the ship's AI, he would use heavy security measures to ensure he remains the dominant one. Even then he avoids doing so because the experience of being a 15-kilometer long Battle Star would be "addicting." However the aforementioned Outsiders have neither of these concerns and their captains are considered indistinguishable from their ship A.I.s.
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