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04:40:31 PM Sep 2nd 2013
Does this cover episodes that were never intended to be canonical — parodies, crossovers, specials, that kind of thing? For example, the Simpsons Halloween Specials exist in Negative Continuity, but that trope doesn't apply to the series as a whole (at least, not to the same extent — dead characters stay dead).
10:43:21 PM May 26th 2012
01:26:44 AM Mar 2nd 2012
edited by LoserTakesAll
Is the comment that "X-Men: First Class officially throws X-Men Origins: Wolverine out the window" based on Word of God? I wanted to add a comment about how it's even harder to reconcile First Class with the first and third X-Men movies (to my knowledge, the only problem with reconciling Wolverine and First Class is the presence of a younger Emma Frost in Wolverine, which is set after First Class, but nothing rules out the character in Wolverine - who I don't think is ever even given a name outside the closing credits - being a daughter/niece/younger sister/clone (don't laugh - Emma Frost in the comics has three teenage clones)/etc. of the character in First Class), but the use of the word "officially" makes it seem like the person who added that example may have heard the producers disown Wolverine without disowning the first three movies.
11:40:05 AM Oct 13th 2011
Non Serial Movies are by definition not in canon's continuity. Does that mean the case of the original work ignoring any change to the canonical universe by a Non-Serial Movie not a case of Canon Discontinuity?
02:32:31 PM Jul 16th 2011
Something bothers me about the Sonic entry. Could somebody actually site this to prevent Flame Wars? It's a very heavy topic to just declare that a TON of Sonic games are out of continuity...
09:48:05 AM Nov 1st 2011
edited by SamMax
I agree. I don't know where that came from, either. All I can say it this: Cite where you found it or don't mention it at all!

Edit: Other articles relating to the franchise have this problem as well. It's getting to where I'll just remove them unless they can cite where they came from!
12:54:52 AM Nov 14th 2011
Yeah. And clearly Sonic 2006 MUST be canon, since it was mentioned in Sonic Generations. Or, at the very least, the game did happen, just was time-warped out of continuity, if you will.(as in the events didn't take place besides Sonic and Friends visiting)

Anybody find it odd that Silver is in Generations, but Omega is not, though? Er-hem, this does bug me quite a lot. I can believe everything below it, but we both know that if Sonic 2006 isn't canon, then clearly Generations is not.(which, yeah, I doubt that)
03:35:33 PM Dec 1st 2011
edited by SamMax
EDIT: Whoops! I made a mistake here! Ignore this.
10:06:07 AM Dec 5th 2011
Whoever put it up the Canon Discontinuity the first place is either an official at Sega, or confused this somewhat with Fanon Discontinuity
10:36:55 AM Jan 27th 2012
It seems to be gone, now. Who's the troper who put it up? Probably the same guy who put up the rumors of those graphic novels that were allegedly to be sequels and prequels to the Super Mario Bros. film.
04:57:13 PM Jul 5th 2011
What the hell is "The events of 2 Fast 2 Furious and The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift seem have been completely forgotten in The Fast And The Furious series. Especially notable in the fact that none of the characters introduced in the second film (and one in the third film) appeared in the more-known Fast and Furious and Fast Five." talking about? Yeah, none of 2 Fast 2 Furious is included in Fast Five. Except, you know, for the multiple characters from 2 Fast 2 Furious that appear in Fast Five. And the references to the events from 2 Fast 2 Furious in Fast Five. And Tokyo Drift has not been "forgotten," it takes place in the future. And even within that context, there's a reference to it at the end of Fast Five, from the character that is (wait for it) in both Tokyo Drift and Fast Five (and Fast and Furious). Literally nothing from the Fast/Furious franchise has even been softly retconned, let a-fucking-lone made "canon discontinuity." Seriously. What?
04:11:21 PM Mar 21st 2011
It's worth noting at this point that it's well known that RTD dislikes the movie - it's brought up and mocked in his series Queer as Folk

Hmm. I've often thought that TV shows should have a little disclaimer: "The opinions of characters are not necessarily those of the writer". In his column in Doctor Who Magazine #344, Rusty refers to McGann's "glorious, heartfelt Doctor", describes the TV Movie as "a fine version of this brilliant show", and dismisses the furor that even caused Philip Segal to doubt whether the Eighth Doctor "counted" as the work of "lonely loudmouths" and "frothing pedants", before concluding "Of course he's the Eighth! Of course he bloody is!"
02:44:05 PM Feb 3rd 2011
I think this trope means that Word of God is stating that certain points either never happened in-universe or aren't really that important to the plot.
04:39:12 PM Dec 6th 2010
Somebody work the pun Canon DIS Continuity into the Zelda CD-i games.
11:04:07 PM Nov 13th 2010
Ummm... for the picture, shouldn't the Superman Returns poster be "X"-ed out as well? I mean, a lot of fans hate that movie too, what with Superman becoming the world's worst deadbeat dad and all.
11:08:07 PM Nov 13th 2010
The picture is illustrating canon discontinuity. Superman Returns is sort of a sequel to Superman II, ignoring the intervening movies.
12:16:58 PM Aug 19th 2010
I notice Trouble has been zapped because "It was never intended to be in continuity". Actually, Marvel were vague on that point, probably because it was published during a period when "continuity" was practically a dirty word in in the Bullpen.

The Other Wiki says "Complaints from fans were so strong that Marvel later declared that the story was not part of the "official" Marvel continuity", and links to an interview where Bill Jemas says "I hope that Marvel readers will be proud to call Trouble the origin of Spider-Man" (with, admittedly, the get-out-clause that if they aren't, it won't be - Schrodinger's Discontinuity?)
03:43:55 PM Jul 28th 2010
I zapped the entry about the Clone Saga. Not referencing a story again isn't Canon Discontinuity. Canon Discontinuity requires either an official statement a story never happened or a deliberate contradiction without the benefit of a Retcon.

In fact, the revelation that Norman Osborn survived his death in Amazing Spider-Man #121 (or was that #122) was part of the Clone Saga. Osborn is still around today, and if the Clone Saga was Canon Discontinuity, he wouldn't be.
12:05:15 AM Jul 16th 2010
So, what was retconned about Claire's blood in Heroes?
03:39:35 AM May 8th 2010
What exactly was so bad about Paranoia 5th Edition? Un-product ranting aside, it's like a big Noodle Incident.
04:04:21 PM Mar 24th 2010
I have to say, I'm greatly confused as to that the LOST entry is getting at. I've never heard of whatever the hell they're going on about when it comes to Stranger In A Strange Land, and Nikki and Paulo were NOT retconned away, just killed off.
12:04:44 AM Jul 16th 2010
They're alluded to again in season 6 too.