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02:33:15 PM Jan 4th 2016
edited by VVK
Removed this from under Watchmen:

  • Given how cognizant Rorschach is of this trope, it is darkly appropriate that he himself inverts it: he works tirelessly to aid helpless strangers, seeing no problem defending humanity in a general way (e.g., beating up criminals) and idolizing or idealizing people he doesn't know (Kitty Genovese, Harry Truman, etc.) but every person he actually knows and/or spends much time with, he hates.

It's not really true. He despises people on the street and assaults random people for information presumably on the basis that they're bound to be guilty of something. On the other hand, he respects the Comedian and likes Dan (Night Owl) in spite of not really having much in common with him. He might be trying to punish more than help... but whether that last one is true or not, he's got plenty of disgust for people he doesn't know.
06:40:15 PM Mar 9th 2013
Has anyone else referred to this as the "pedestrian effect" or is that me mistaking "pedestrian" for "bystander"? I think whether works and gets the idea across.
06:54:05 PM Mar 9th 2013
You could. It would actually make a better name, since this one sounds like dialog.
06:57:27 PM Mar 9th 2013
Bystander or pedestrian? Bystander is the more common name whereas (though I use it) pedestrian may confuse people (sounds like a car trope, I suppose)...
06:58:22 PM Mar 9th 2013
edited by FastEddie
Bystander is more direct. Imma do the rename.
07:13:57 PM Mar 9th 2013
Fast Eddie Ladies and Gents. Kk sounds good.
07:06:26 AM Mar 14th 2013
I've moved the wicks.
12:58:08 PM Oct 3rd 2012
Why no real life examples? The whole basis of S.E.P. is the bystander effect, and no one would have really known about if psychologists hadn't articulated it from the Kitty Genovese case. I checked the reason, and it's simply "too controversial." Why is it too controversial? Is it just too uncomfortable to talk about or something?
07:57:32 AM Oct 22nd 2012
Just list some examples here if you feel like it.
11:16:51 AM Oct 22nd 2012
No. The Discussion pages are not for getting around the no real life examples rules.
02:37:45 PM Jan 4th 2016
Anyway, just for the record, the Kitty Genovese case was not an example. Some newspaper guy just made up his own facts.
06:57:26 PM Nov 18th 2011
edited by BlueIceTea
There are a few examples on this page that have been mis-filed, and really belong under Perception Filter. I've removed the entries about the Knight Bus in Harry Potter and the Tardis on Doctor Who. If you see any other mis-filed examples, please move them too.
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