Main Brother Sister Incest Discussion

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ablackraptor
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12:01:15 AM Dec 10th 2014
I think we need to clarify this trope a bit more in terms of what 'counts' as siblings.

There's been some bother in the example for The Flash (2014) as Barry and Iris, who are listed as such because Barry was raised by her father Joe (who he developed a father/son like dynamic), but aren't related by blood, don't consider each other siblings (not even in a Like Brother and Sister kind of way), and Barry was never legally adopted by Joe. There's been some issue though on if they count as Not Blood Siblings, and if that would make them an example of this trope.

Largely, it comes down to this paragraph: Frequently actual incest is avoided through the device of siblings who aren't really they're fostered, or step-sibs, or adopted. Thus, while in arbitrary terms of relationship they may be brother or sister, in "true" terms of blood they are not, and may pursue their chosen target with relative impunity. Often it's just an extreme version of the Childhood Friend Romance setup; male and female characters who normally couldn't cohabitate or possibly even interact normally with each other are 'forced' to but meet with an arbitrary contrivance preventing them from developing past it. The only difference is that the audience is more likely to accept the latter contrivance as believable.

Now, to me, that comes of as if its talking about how the trope is commonly averted rather than loose ways to consider it. The Laconic for the trope furthers this, as it specifies only full or half siblings rather than Not Blood Siblings. Add in the other factors, and how this is more someone's personal interpretation of their relationship rather than the actual depiction while this trope, as a main page trope, would usually require this to be the actual manner of which its treated as on the show.

So, because of that, I feel the page needs to be cleared up to clarify what it considers plausible examples or not.
SeptimusHeap
12:13:51 AM Dec 10th 2014
Might be something to ask in the Trope Talk forum.
Spritle101
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03:21:55 PM Dec 26th 2013
There are SO many options for brother-brother. Can't we rename this Sibcest?
RochuBlack
09:06:16 PM Sep 6th 2014
Really, I think it's the most logical thing. Sibling Incest's probably the way to go.
SeptimusHeap
01:24:24 AM Sep 7th 2014
Well, renaming pages here takes usually a far stronger argument than "this name may be better". Especially given that this name is enjoing very good usage with 12,516 inbounds.
Steve_Marmot
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08:16:01 PM Jul 25th 2013
In the PC game Majesty: The Fantasy Kingdom Sim, the in-game descriptions present a rather incest-y story: Krolm, the supreme God of everything (mostly of destruction) had somehow given birth to two chidlren (Krolm is male), Helia(female) and Lunord (male). Later, Helia and Lunord HAD SIX TWIN CHILDREN. Two proved to be rejects and ended up as Demigod of the Goblins/Deformed Slave-master, while the other 4 became actual Gods of Life/Law/Death/Chaos
ChaoticBrain
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07:02:33 PM Feb 28th 2013
The potholed word "relative" leads to Incredibly Lame Pun, which is a misuse of that trope. Unfortunately, it is locked, so I cannot change it to link to Incest Is Relative (or any other trope page, or none at all) instead.
deands
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01:53:39 PM Dec 7th 2012
Does anyone know where this trope originated in anime/manga? It seems like something created in a really known and respected anime and influenced other to do the same.
Brainiac0982
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04:02:01 PM Jun 23rd 2012
Could someone remove the red link about Egyptian Royalty?
Lanyard
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04:33:53 AM Jan 13th 2012
It should be noted that incest is not forbidden in quite many countries, as long as the participants are adult (e.g. Japan, Belgium, Russia, the Netherlands, France, Portugal and quite a few more) and that there also are lots of countries where such couples may marry. Depending on where the samples come from, the couples may be totally legit.
ZeldaCrescent
11:24:05 AM Mar 15th 2012
In Sweden half and full blooded siblings can get legally married.
spiritsunami
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12:44:20 PM Oct 14th 2010
Oh, dear, here we go again...another one that's been locked, which is doubly bad because A.) only some media are covered by sub-pages, which would make it quite inconvenient if a new example showed up in one of the media that's still on the main page, and B.) like most things that get locked, there's a really friggin' obvious error that needs to be corrected, in this case an example that landed outside the folder. Actually, it's not so much a full example as it is a lone word. Also, Die Walkure is there twice. I guess what I'm trying to say is, locking articles is not the answer.
muninn
08:23:42 AM Oct 28th 2010
Why was this page even locked in the first place? If there was an edit war, I can't see it in the page history.
spiritsunami
05:18:23 AM Feb 9th 2013
Then look below in this one. My guess is that someone tried to post an image, seeing as how that post was dated just six days before mine.
Nerd42
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07:41:36 PM Aug 8th 2010
Doesn't this page just shout "Star Wars"? Luke and Princess Leia?
kazokuhouou
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11:43:52 PM May 11th 2010
So, before I put it back, why was the Rammstein example deleted?
aldona
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11:46:34 AM Mar 27th 2010
edited by FastEddie
thumped

We don't link to porn sites.
Komodin
11:52:21 AM Mar 27th 2010
Um, why?
tricksterson
07:28:15 AM Mar 28th 2010
Because these topics are borderline enough. Why risk bringing Moral Guardians down on our heads?
Komodin
07:43:44 AM Mar 28th 2010
I know. My response was when that user above me linked to those porn sites.
92.80.171.154
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10:29:45 AM Mar 23rd 2010
why isn't it aloud to post a picture on this page?
CommandoDude
12:57:37 PM Oct 8th 2010
If this question doesn't get answered I'm going to put one up. It's not like people are going to upload friken porn or anything.
Iaculus
01:30:18 PM Oct 8th 2010
Ask in Image Pickin'. Oh, and don't go against the mods' instructions unless you're looking for an edit-ban.
Bgal
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07:13:43 AM Mar 12th 2010
Um, would someone linked back to that image from A top the fourth wall that was used here for a bit?
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