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10:11:30 PM Oct 7th 2015
I wabt to make a new Theatre section. I csn currently only think of five examples. Shoukd I make a new subpage, or just a folder?
03:00:19 AM Oct 8th 2015
New folder.
03:35:09 AM Jul 1st 2014
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Due to the prevalence of the full name "Big Bad Evil Guy" in the tabletop RPG community, I wonder if we should change the Main.Big Bad Evil Guy redirect from Main.Big Bad to BigBad.Tabletop Games...
03:57:48 AM Jul 1st 2014
Frankly, this seems like a case for YKTTW.
07:42:23 AM Oct 30th 2013
Who is the Big Bad of Carrie.?

Chris Hargensen, Margaret White or Carrie White?

In the page says Chris, but I'm not really sure if she qualify as Big Bad.
03:05:16 PM Oct 30th 2013
I think that Chris and Margaret form a Big Bad Ensemble, both antagonising Carrie while being unrelated to each other, and there's no single Big Bad. But if I had to choose, I'd say it's Chris because she's the one who is actively moving the plot forward.
04:49:49 PM Oct 22nd 2013
Can a Hero Antagonist qualify as a Big Bad of a story?
07:34:04 AM Oct 30th 2013
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A Big Bad is a Villain.
07:20:53 PM Feb 2nd 2013
Are Brainiac and Willow examples of Big bads?

I ask because Imperiex and Warren are the main threats in most of the season, before being killed by Brainiac and Willow respectively.

So I'm not sure if they are the Big Bads or just the Final Bosses.

10:06:51 AM Sep 13th 2011
Big Bad simply means the one causing the conflict, so I don't understand why there aren't any real life examples.
11:58:58 AM Jan 4th 2013
Rarely if ever can real-life conflicts be said to be "entirely caused" by one person. To allow for Real Life examples here would only invite gross oversimplification of sensitive issues which might cause offence.
08:32:42 PM Aug 15th 2011
Have you all gone MAD!?! What about the Big Bads of the Star Wars Movies?
11:47:38 AM Jun 15th 2013
What about them? Oh, and last I checked, Star Wars (at least the movies) had one Big Bad, Palpatine. All of the other villains (except Jabba) were his servants and/or pawns.
04:35:23 AM Sep 20th 2010
Dartz isn't a regular follower of the Orichalcos God, and not even its Dragon. You can't seperate Dartz and the Orichalcos God, because until their defeat, Dartz is essentially the Orichalcos God personified(they even fuse into a single being in the arc's final battle). It's pretty much like Bakura and Zorc in the Memory World arc, so I think we should be consistent with it. So, what do you think? Should we list Dartz and the Orichalcos God for Doma and Bakura and Zorc for the Memory world? Or only the Orichalcos God for Doma and only Zorc for the Memory World?
04:03:27 PM Sep 22nd 2010
As you noted, Dartz was not a single being with the Orihalcos God before of the final battle. The motive that Yami Bakura can be considered equal with Zorc is because Yami Bakura IS Zorc
05:43:52 PM Sep 22nd 2010
But again, it's the nearly same thing here, until the end of the arc, Dartz is essentially the Orichalcos God in human form. Dartz is the one that moves the plot, and even when the the Orichalcos God is summoned Dartz is still part of it. The Orichalcos God is just a voiceless monster with no real motivation without Dartz to define it.
05:55:22 PM Sep 22nd 2010
edited by MagBas
Oh, this only means that Dartz can be considered the Big Bad and the Orihalcos God the Bigger Bad- but the two are not in equal standing, by this if the Orihalcos God can be listed as the arc Big Bad, Dartz is not the Big Bad. If Dartz is the Big Bad, this means that his master-the Orihalcos God is not sufficiently important/active to qualify as the arc Big Bad. Read Bigger Bad.
06:14:05 PM Sep 22nd 2010
Already did actually. But I'm not sure that the Orichalcos God qualifies, as it seems to be about things that aren't really part of the plot. If I had to define the Big Bad and Bigger Bad of Doma, I would say that Humanity's inner darkness is the Bigger Bad, Dartz is the Big Bad, and the Orichalcos God is something weird in between, too involved to be the Bigger Bad but not involved enough to be the Big Bad.
04:35:30 AM May 23rd 2011
Humanity's inner darkness is not the Bigger Bad. Dartz was just tricked into believing that. The Orichalcos feeds on the darkness within human hearts but that only means that the Orichalcos is the Bigger Bad, since despite what Dartz believes humans are not defined by that inner darkness, and there is more going on within them. The Orichalcos both feeds upon and amplifies it, warping the victim. The Orichalcos God is something different- its a creation of the Orichalcos, and Dartz treats it as some kind of beloved pet, though he's deluded and doesn't realise he is a pawn.
05:46:06 PM Sep 12th 2010
edited by tenoreyequetis
I think Trope Decay is starting to work its way into the page and there are too many examples that need to be removed or rewritten here. I just changed a line:
...because how can Kronski be a Big Bad if there's a Man Behind Him?

Are there only a few problems with this on this page or does it have to go to the Trope Repair Shop?
04:26:29 PM Sep 10th 2010
I think it's about time we start sub-dividing the examples of this trope into their own pages like Magnificent Bastard and Complete Monster are. It's gotten really big. The Dragon should be too.
04:27:36 AM Jun 21st 2010
Personally, I cannot think of a better Big Bad for the title image than Palpatine, but I thought I'd open the floor for anyone who can think of someone more appropriate.
09:36:15 PM Jun 2nd 2010
Why is the title of this page "B Ig Bad" instead of just "Big Bad"?
09:57:42 PM Jun 2nd 2010
edited by AnonymousMcCartneyfan
They're the same. It's all covered under The Problem with Pen Island.
02:04:06 PM May 29th 2010
There's this big list of One Piece Big Bads per story arc, but half of them hardly-to-not qualify as Big Bads at all. For example, all supposed Big Bads in the Baroque Works saga all answer to Crocodile, so they shouldn't have any Big Bad status. Anyone have anything to add on this?
02:25:30 PM Aug 8th 2011
/delete them. If they don't qualify, if they aren't the BIG bad, the guy behind it all, then get rid of them. They don't belong here. They sound more like the Quirky Miniboss Squad.
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