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UnSamuraiTricolore The Italian Samurai Since: Aug, 2021
The Italian Samurai
Mar 18th 2022 at 4:11:18 PM •••

Could Cloud and Sephiroth be considered a justified instance of this trope?

Straight or gay, no one would feel something that is not absolute hatred for the man who destroyed their hometown and still taunts them about it.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
Mar 18th 2022 at 7:34:13 PM •••

No as what you describe is Shipping Goggles and therefore an Audience Reaction. Bait-and-Switch Lesbians requires explicit in-universe references, which these two don't get.

Allaiyah Since: Oct, 2017
Oct 3rd 2019 at 2:00:54 PM •••

Where is the male version of this? If they're grouped together, it should have a more gender-neutral title & description.

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LotteV Since: Feb, 2015
Jul 30th 2021 at 2:45:08 AM •••

Definitely agreed, I think something akin to "Bait-and-Switch Gays" or "Bait-and-Switch Homosexuality" would be better.

TwinBird Dunkies addict Since: Oct, 2009
Dunkies addict
Nov 24th 2011 at 5:06:25 AM •••

Would the weird almost-kiss in the opening of XXX Holic between Maru and Moro count? Only that I never see it mentioned elsewhere, even though it's so... strange (the characters being about as sexless as it gets).

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Alyfox Since: Jun, 2020
Jun 30th 2020 at 2:07:58 PM •••

So I literally only just starting looking at this page, and I immediately have to chime in on the Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040 part - its my #2 all time favorite anime - and I have to say JFC YES!!! I'm so pissed off that Lina and P Riss didnt end up together. They should have, and even though its one of my faves, this part still frustrated me to no end.

Alyfox Since: Jun, 2020
Jun 30th 2020 at 2:50:34 PM •••

edit: never mind

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Aly7 Since: Aug, 2013
Aug 27th 2018 at 5:00:39 PM •••

Can anyone explain what this weird opinionated rant about how male hentai writers are sexist manchildren is about? Or more specifically, why it's here?

LB7979 Since: Apr, 2016
Jul 15th 2018 at 11:04:07 AM •••

Is this a valid example or not?

This entry:

  • Paul Feig said of Ghostbusters (2016) that one of the Ghostbusters is gay, and he'd wanted to put more evidence in the film itself, but the studio didn't want it and so he isn't allowed to tell us which one. The film itself shows Holtzmann flirting with Erin a lot - one scene getting spotlighted in the trailer - but nothing's ever stated and she also hits on Kevin.

was recently deleted from this page by a troper with an agenda (search the Ask The Tropers forum for "Geeky Binka" to find the discussion). It doesn't seem valid enough to put it back though. As someone who hasn't seen the film, it seems too weak to me as an example (seems more like Les Yay + Word of God), and other tropers in the ATT discussion weren't sure if it was valid either.

Can anybody who has seen Ghostbusters (2016) comment please?

pinkdalek Since: Sep, 2010
Nov 2nd 2014 at 5:50:22 AM •••

I think it would be really cool if we could get a rewrite for the trope description that makes it less specific to anime and manga, less specific to Girl on Girl Is Hot relationships, and is written less from the Yuri Fanboy perspective (although that is a valid one that deserves a place in the writeup) and a bit more from the Unfortunate Implications perspective.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Nov 2nd 2014 at 9:06:20 AM •••

You can ask here.

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