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Razor21792 Since: Feb, 2013
Jul 2nd 2021 at 7:22:00 PM •••

Can someone explain to me why the Some Anvils Need To Be Dropped page was deleted?

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Throneofsouls Since: Apr, 2015
Nov 9th 2021 at 6:56:53 PM •••

I've no clue. I honestly think that it was totally unnecessary to merge "Anvilicious" & "Some anvils need to be dropped." It's just too confusing and having them go back to the way were on this site would be easier for everyone.

Throneofsouls Since: Apr, 2015
Mar 8th 2022 at 9:17:24 PM •••

I'm just as confused as you. Honestly it seems very unnecessary.

tropineasily Currently Suspended Since: Sep, 2018
Currently Suspended
Oct 22nd 2019 at 1:04:54 AM •••

I think the name is way too vague and undescriptive. I've seen plenty of people confusing this with Some Anvils Need to Be Dropped, which has the exact opposite effect. I think it's time for a name change, the "delicious" part of the name is very misleading.

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justthereforthecode Since: Jan, 2015
Apr 28th 2021 at 12:43:36 PM •••

I was looking through tv tropes a few days ago to try and find something like a "forced aesop" trope where a writer would ham-fistedly try to add an aesop into a story without any real build-up or logic or narrative progression behind including it (for example: one character out of the blue calls another character out for being a coward, with both the story and the character being accused end up agreeing that that's the case, but there was no indication beforehand that this was ever the case.) I couldn't find anything like that after searching for a good hour or two. The closest I came to finding it was Clueless Aesop. Turns out Avilicious fits what I was looking for perfectly, it just had a really esoteric name. I've been wasting my life on this purgatory of a website for the good part of a decade, so if someone mentioned "Anvilicious" I would instantly know what they meant, but in the moment of looking for a "Forced Aesop" trope my mind was fixated on the "aesop" part and wasn't thinking about non-aesop related tropes that would fit. If not a name change, it should definitely get another alternative title to make it easier to find.

SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 20th 2021 at 11:45:00 AM •••

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Complaining, started by WoolieWool on May 26th 2012 at 1:36:24 AM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
FastEddie MOD Since: Apr, 2004
Mar 3rd 2010 at 6:43:54 PM •••

Here's an anvilicious topic: There is a new discussion system.

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FastEddie MOD Since: Apr, 2004
Mar 3rd 2010 at 10:14:35 PM •••

Yay!

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
codenamehunterwolf Since: Dec, 2009
Jun 9th 2010 at 4:26:47 PM •••

Religilous, Michael Moore and George W. Bushisms are Anvilicious Take Thats against their chosen targets. I say they remain.

ebrown2112 Since: Jan, 2001
Jun 30th 2020 at 4:45:09 PM •••

Some of these entries seem to veer into editorializing.

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strejda Since: Dec, 2012
Dec 17th 2012 at 7:48:48 AM •••

Why is TNG episode "Drumhead" considered Anvilicious trope and not Some Anvils Need to Be Dropped trope?

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tketch Since: Mar, 2015
Jun 30th 2015 at 12:32:34 PM •••

Because YMMV.

This whole article/trope page is inherently biased in favor of the smirking, eye-rolling cynics, which is not true of most other tropes which can go either way.

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Dorianin Since: Apr, 2012
Nov 5th 2017 at 9:04:56 AM •••

As opposed to the gullible, slack jawed idealists?

VoidSpace Since: Feb, 2013
Apr 30th 2013 at 5:52:48 PM •••

I miss the "Because Subtlety is for the Weak" caption.

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Thecommander236 Since: Aug, 2011
Apr 30th 2013 at 6:33:24 PM •••

Yeah, the Warhammer 40K quote was funny.

Don't make me destroy you. @ Castle Series
TheArchitectWriterXIII Since: Oct, 2010
aaeyero aayero Since: Apr, 2011
aayero
Apr 17th 2011 at 12:36:25 PM •••

This article is hardly more than an excuse to complain about an outcome of the story some people don't like. This article is like 1 step above Broken Aesop. This should be moved to the Darth Wiki.

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ARaihan Since: Dec, 2010
Feb 26th 2014 at 8:43:07 PM •••

I agree with this. A majority of the examples seems to be people complaining about various pieces of media they don't like. This has become another iteration of the 'Just Bugs Me' issue.

Orayn Since: Jan, 2011
Aug 30th 2013 at 10:50:03 AM •••

Anyone else notice the relatively high proportion of examples that are just faux-victimization from opponents of gay marriage? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

aaeyero aayero Since: Apr, 2011
aayero
Jan 29th 2013 at 6:57:40 PM •••

Is there some sort of "No Specific Examples Only" rule in effect on this trope?

MrFable Since: Oct, 2011
Aug 23rd 2012 at 10:01:30 PM •••

So has anyone read the Family Guy section lately? It's full of serious butthurt. The South Park section by comparison has a much more approving tone.

blakeyrat Since: Jul, 2010
Mar 25th 2012 at 7:35:40 PM •••

The Metro 2033 entry is unfair, considering the complexity of the game's story. Yes, it takes place after a nuclear war devastated the surface, but that's the *setting* to the game, not an anvilicious message.

Anyway, I'm removing it.

cemex Since: Jan, 2010
May 19th 2010 at 5:49:13 AM •••

Why does the Avatar example keep on getting removed. The message of the movie is as sublte as a ton of bricks

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codenamehunterwolf Since: Dec, 2009
Jun 9th 2010 at 4:27:44 PM •••

Fan Dumb, perhaps? The DVD was released on Earth Day in case the film was too subtle for you.

Malchus Since: Jan, 2001
Jul 17th 2011 at 3:03:17 AM •••

I know this is late, but just to make it clear to anyone who thinks that example was removed just because "hurf durf, the fans can't take their movie being slammed":

Important Note: Please, do not use the examples just to whine about messages you don't like. It gets really old and annoying. Any examples which elicit nothing but whining and/or rabid defense of the validity of its message will be removed as Flame Bait.

If only people were restrained enough that bringing up that film didn't turn into long, heated Conversation In The Main Page every single TIME, it would probably not have been removed do much.

Edited by Malchus Yeah, that avatar's a 'Shop of my real face.
Carnildo Since: Jan, 2001
Jun 13th 2011 at 8:42:28 PM •••

"* The Mercedes Lackey School of Heavy-Handed Social Commentary. Of particular note: Every single one of her villains is oversexed, perverted, and/or a rapist. Every. Single. One."

Of the villains I can recall:

  • Ma'ar: Yes, at least in his later incarnations
  • Ancar: Yes
  • Hulda: Yes
  • Lord Orthallan: No
  • Emperor Charliss: No
  • Thanel: No
  • Guildmaster Vatean: No (profiting from it, sure, but not engaging in it)
If you start including minor villains, the ratio goes down even further. It's only when you start counting mooks that it goes back up.

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Kyusil Since: May, 2010
May 7th 2011 at 2:56:11 PM •••

Do we really need that whole Bible rant in the Literature section? Ironically enough, it just seems to be a particularly angry Author Filibuster.

aaeyero aayero Since: Apr, 2011
aayero
Apr 17th 2011 at 12:37:12 PM •••

There are 2 references to Avatar. I'm removing the shorter one, because of it's obvious lack of clarification.

DoktorvonEurotrash Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk Since: Jan, 2001
Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk
Apr 12th 2011 at 2:06:07 AM •••

What's this talk about rock music being evil in Discworld? The gun was evil, sure (it is, after all, a killing machine), but the Music in Soul Music never came across as evil, only completely alien to this world and unaware of the consequences of its effect on creatures. If anything, it was an Eldritch Abomination without anything particularly abominable about it.

It does not matter who I am. What matters is, who will you become? - motto of Omsk Bird
24.190.52.92 Since: Dec, 1969
Mar 15th 2011 at 10:41:37 AM •••

"1000 Ways to Die." Anvilicious to the point of Urban Legend status. Do something bad, then you die.

joeyjojo Happy New Year! Since: Jan, 2001
Happy New Year!
Sep 12th 2010 at 7:52:06 PM •••

** Not to mention the not at all subtle pro-life messages in the fourth book. Meyer actually describes pregnancy as "not a choice- a necessity"

That's just a refection of stephenie meyer's warped worldview. If bella compared Roe vs Wade to the rule of king herod than you be on to something.

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Hippoboy Nerd God Since: Jan, 2010
Nerd God
Apr 2nd 2010 at 6:41:25 AM •••

How is Warhammer 40K anvillicious? Reading the entry I'm rather confused, apart from the 1st objection being rather specific (their example of a fascist deity figure would be a jab at more religions than christianity), doesn't 40K in it's presentation of the ultimate crap-sack world ignore trying to give morals entirely? I would think that 40K doesn't really try to give any message except "buy more merch" and "flamers and chainsaw swords are awesome".

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