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azul120
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07:33:28 PM Jan 6th 2013
Since this was recently renamed and redirected only a few months after a cleanup, I thought I would post a link to the original discussion link:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/remarks.php?trope=Main.TallDarkAndBishoujo

Some of the examples I didn't agree with, because there were a lot of not that tall examples that existed to begin with. And guess which part of the definition was removed anyways?
lu127
moderator
01:50:23 AM Jan 7th 2013
edited by lu127
....When was it removed? Height is still part of the definition. "she will generally be taller than their peers". Just because it's not in the name doesn't mean it's not part of the definition.

A lot of existing bad examples do not make other bad examples correct.
azul120
12:16:45 PM Jan 7th 2013
It's not a defining part though. I think it's more about presence.
captainpat
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05:17:47 PM Sep 11th 2012
edited by captainpat
The amount zero context examples and just wrong ones on this page is getting out of hand. I'm moving them here for repairs. For an example does fit this trope a character that fits this trope is tall, pretty, aloof, and composed. She must possess all four of those traits, especially being aloof and composed. If an example does fit, then please re-add it back to the page with the correct context.

    Anime and Manga 
  • Ghost in the Shell: Motoko Kusanagi.
  • Himemiya Chikane in Kannazuki no Miko, complete with blonde and Moe Shrinking Violet girlfriend (Himeko).
  • Mima in Perfect Blue, despite having short dark hair.
  • Shion, Mion, Rena, and Miyo in Higurashi manage to pull this without having the stereotypical brunette hair.
  • Majority of the female cast of Code Geass in terms of appearance, but proper examples are C.C., Cornelia, and Marianne.
  • Ayla from Battle Athletes.
  • Nico Robin and Boa Hancock in One Piece.
  • Princess Erika in Daimos.
  • Lucy in Elfen Lied, despite having red hair, especially evident in contrast to Nyu, who is neither aloof nor particularly tall. If you pay attention, you'll notice that Nyu is actually about a head shorter than Lucy. They are the same person.
  • Momo in Peach Girl.
  • The Aoyama sisters (both Motoko and Tsuruko) in Love Hina.
  • Lieutenant Kanuka Clancy from Patlabor. Possibly a part of her rivalry with Bifauxnen Lt. Kumagami.
  • Madoka Ayukawa in Kimagure Orange Road — since KOR is over 20 years old, she is one of the originals. While we don't get to see her mother clearly, the OVA's hint that Madoka inherited her good looks from her.
    • Same goes to her cousin-in-law, Yukari.
    • The Kasuga's Missing Hot Mom, Akemi, was this to a T.
  • Sai in Kidou Tenshi Angelic Layer.
  • Bleach
    • Miyako Shiba was a textbook example. Too bad she's dead.
  • The three Flame Hazes in Shakugan no Shana, although, like Rukia, Shana is short, while Margery, Wilhelmina, and Pheles are respectively blond, rose haired, and green-haired.
  • Natsuki Kuga and her Hot Mom Saeko in Mai-HiME. It Runs in the Family,
obviously.

    Fan Fic 

    Film 

    Literature 

    Live-Action TV 

    Music 
  • Megurine Luka, one of the Vocaloids, was designed with this image in mind...except her hair, which is pink like that of the previously mentioned Utena.
nirao01
09:17:53 AM Sep 25th 2012
edited by nirao01
Some characters from the Live Action TV fits to a T. Should they be put back on the main page?

- Ziva David from NCIS. She's icy, especially during her first three seasons. And she's tall.

- Ms. Parker from The Pretender.

- Shelby Concoran from Glee. She's very composed, thus being aloof. She's also the tallest female in the cast.

- Xena. She's definitely tall and icy, though she mellowed overtime losing the though exterior eventually.
captainpat
11:18:40 AM Sep 25th 2012
Probably not, since this is a Stock Japanese Characters and should only be used in Japanese media.
captainpat
topic
05:17:27 PM Sep 11th 2012
    Video Games 
  • Due to the setting, everyone in Jade Empire has black hair, but personality-wise, the closest to this trope is probably Silk Fox.
  • Morrigan in Dragon Age.
  • Hatsune in Atlach Nacha.
  • Maria Kain from Pathologic.
  • Bayonetta.
  • Saki Tsuzura of Arcana Heart. The fact that she looks like Chikane may just be a coincidence, really.
  • Also, Tear Grants from Tales of the Abyss
    • Legretta as well.
  • Uzuki from Akai Ito.
  • Julia Chang and Zafina from Tekken. Nina Williams from the same game is a blond example.
  • Final Fantasy:
    • Faris Scherwiz from Final Fantasy V is a rare purple-haired version of the troupe.
    • Celes Chere from Final Fantasy VI is a blond example.
    • Tifa Lockheart and Aerith Gainesborough from Final Fantasy VII with a twist. Tifa has the looks, but not the aloof demeanour. Aerith has the attitude but gentler looks.
    • Quistis Trepe from Final Fantasy VIII is another blond example.
    • Lulu from Final Fantasy X, although people generally leave her alone because of her sardonic nature. NPC Dona is pretty much the same, with an emphasis on "dark".
    • Fran (despite being white haired) and Ashe (despite being blond) from Final Fantasy XII
    • Oerba Yun Fang from Final Fantasy XIII fits this trope to a T. Even funnier is Fang's best friend, Vanille, who is considered by many fans to very obviously be her Moe girlfriend. Also, Lightning from the same game, except she has strawberry blonde hair.
  • Brigadier General Selvaria from Valkyria Chronicles is a tall, dark Person of Mass Destruction.
  • Lana Skye from Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney.
  • Lara Croft.
  • Lita Halford from Brütal Legend.
  • Ayra from Fire Emblem Jugdral, and how. To a lesser degree we have Ferry, who pulls this despite having green hair.
    • Ethlin and Cuan's daughter Altenna is this to a tee, and so is Leen's expy Laylea. Ayra's daughter Lakche, Lakche's expy Radney and Patty's expy Daisy have the looks, but not the attitudes.
  • Also Cecilia, Fir, Sue, Karla, Ursula and Limstella from Fire Emblem Elibe.
  • Miranda Lawson from Mass Effect 2
  • The Dark Queen from Battletoads.
  • Kitana from Mortal Kombat has elements of this here and there. More prominent in the movies and 9. There's also Ashrah and Nitara. Tanya becomes this after she is revealed to be The Mole and Li Mei follows suit after the events of Deadly Alliance.
    • Sonya Blade is at first a blond example. She largely gets over it, but still has her moments.
    • Kira is a rare short redhead example. Going by her bio, she's 5'5" (the shortest of the females by one or two inches), but everything else (minus the Rapunzel Hair) lines up pretty much 100% with the rest of the trope.
  • Taki and Setsuka from the Soul Series.
  • Rose from The Legend of Dragoon.

    Visual Novels 
  • Miku in A Profile. She appears to be fairly popular with guys because of it, but is largely uninterested in them since she already loves someone else.
  • Kaya from Aoi Shiro, as well as a milder version in Ayashiro.
  • Tsugumi Komachi in Ever17.
  • Misaki in Canvas 2.
  • Sena from Chaos;Head.
  • Rider in Fate/stay night embraces this trope. And her true Master was actually Sakura, a Yamato Nadeshiko girl.
    • As does Rin Tohsaka, who, despite being a bit on the shorter side, more than makes up for it with the rest of her reputation, personality, and appearance.
  • Natsuhi from Umineko no Naku Koro ni. Would probably be an adult counterpart to The Ojou if she didn't have a tendency to get upset and yell at people so easily.
  • Mai in Kanon is the "undeserved delinquent reputation" variant.
  • Shion in Otome wa Boku ni Koishiteru.
  • As mentioned above, Kotonoha Katsura and Nanami Kanroji from the original School Days VN.

    Webcomics 
  • Maaya Chiaki from Red String.
  • Susan of El Goonish Shive eventually evolved into a flawless clone of Sakaki, and more or less fits this trope.
  • Erika of MegaTokyo; though most of her fans, ironically, think of her as "that super-cute girl who played a hyper-cutesey anime character." Sometimes Miho, too, depending on her current personality and hair length.

    Web Original 
  • Sapphire has Khina Sabiri (although her hair is in a ponytail and medium-length) and Morgana Rubanenko.
  • Shandala, heroine of Broken Saints, fits the physical type (until her haircut in Chapter 6), and trouble does tend to follow her around.

    Western Animation 
Jcatgrl
topic
05:55:56 AM Jul 21st 2011
Does Carmen Sandiego fit? If so, what medium would she be put in?
TiberiusBlaze
09:01:34 AM Aug 21st 2011
No real life examples? Why not?
MidasMint
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05:01:10 PM Nov 19th 2010
This is not a trope. It's one of the unfortunate articles which just describes a specific set of character features (say red hair and blue eyes) and then groups characters with those features.
AnimeOtaku
01:28:27 PM Jul 14th 2011
The opening describes personality type too.
missvenompoison
10:15:33 AM Mar 16th 2013
Does every tall and aloof girl have to be brunette?!?
Telcontar
moderator
10:20:32 AM Mar 16th 2013
Nope. However, brown hair in anime often signals this personality type.
184.78.111.255
topic
08:22:46 PM Jun 7th 2010
yomi from azumanga daioh is lesser to extent!!!!
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